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On May 6, 10:10 am, Boltar wrote:
I had to use a bus on the w/e and found that my pre pay had run out.
It cost me 2 quid to go 1 mile because I had to pay by cash. Is that
fair? I don't think so. Same story on the tube.

I think one of the first things boris should at is ditch Kens
idiotic , deliberate and spiteful disparity between the Oyster and
cash fares to deliberately force occasional commuters to use Oyster
to no benefit to themselves but every benefit to TfL.

B2003


Bad luck, I used to do that all the time until I got an auto top up
card. You can get an auto top up oyster card he

https://oyster.tfl.gov.uk/oyster/gue...method=display

The advantage of people paying by oyster isn't just reduced costs.
It's also faster journey times. It used to take forever for a long
queue to board a bus, when many people were paying cash. Now that
paying cash is significantly more expensive, hardly anyone does.

In a sense, having to effectively pay a penalty for using cash is the
price we pay for faster journey times. I don't think the people who
are responsibe for the difference between oyster and cash fares were
motivated by spite.



If it was spite the tube fare would presumably have a standard offset
between Oyster and 'Cash'. In fact the further you go the difference reduces
until it's only 50p, because the £4.00 gets you all the way from zone 1 to
zone 6, a point that seems lost in the noise...

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Boltar wrote:

If small corner shops can handle cash and still make a profit TfL can.


While we're about it I suggest bringing back old money such as the groat.
Then you can really get your own back by handing the bus driver a big sack of
coins. You could also dress as Dickens and wave said bag in front of the
revenue inspectors on bendy buses.

E.

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On Tue, 6 May 2008 03:50:47 -0700 (PDT), Boltar
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On May 6, 11:15 am, Scott wrote:
I thought you could by registering your bank account details on the
tfl site.


You'd have to be an idiot to give your bank details to TfL.

B2003


That is a different question. What the poster said was:

I think Boris should introduce a scheme whereby you
can top up your Oyster automatically when it runs out...

I said I think you can. Are you disputing this?
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On May 6, 1:33 pm, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 6 May 2008 03:50:47 -0700 (PDT), Boltar

wrote:
On May 6, 11:15 am, Scott wrote:
I thought you could by registering your bank account details on the
tfl site.


You'd have to be an idiot to give your bank details to TfL.


B2003


That is a different question. What the poster said was:

I think Boris should introduce a scheme whereby you
can top up your Oyster automatically when it runs out...

I said I think you can. Are you disputing this?


Did it look like I was disputing it? Do try and keep up.

B2003


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On May 6, 1:32 pm, eastender wrote:
Boltar wrote:
If small corner shops can handle cash and still make a profit TfL can.


While we're about it I suggest bringing back old money such as the groat.
Then you can really get your own back by handing the bus driver a big sack of
coins. You could also dress as Dickens and wave said bag in front of the
revenue inspectors on bendy buses.


Hilarious. Not. Nor is it amusing for visitors to get stitched up on
fares unless they buy an oyster card which many of them probably
haven't even heard of.
Its also not funny to in effect have to pay a fine for forgetting to
top up an oyster card by paying for cash instead. Tell you what , next
time you go down the newsagents and buy your newpaper with some loose
change , make sure you give the newsagent twice the price because you
didn't pay by card, after all , cash is hassle isn't it?

Idiot.

B2003

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On May 6, 12:47 pm, wrote:
The advantage of people paying by oyster isn't just reduced costs.
It's also faster journey times. It used to take forever for a long
queue to board a bus, when many people were paying cash. Now that
paying cash is significantly more expensive, hardly anyone does.


So make it exact money only then. Problem solved. Works in loads of
other places in the country. Besides which regular commuters will have
an oyster card anyway because its more convenient if you travel every
day so why nobble occasional commuters?

B2003
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On May 6, 12:59 pm, "Paul Scott"
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If it was spite the tube fare would presumably have a standard offset
between Oyster and 'Cash'. In fact the further you go the difference reduces
until it's only 50p, because the £4.00 gets you all the way from zone 1 to
zone 6, a point that seems lost in the noise...


If its not by spite then what is the purpose exactly? Faster boarding
times hardly apply to the tube - you don't pay on the train!

B2003

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On Tue, 6 May 2008 06:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Boltar
wrote:

On May 6, 1:33 pm, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 6 May 2008 03:50:47 -0700 (PDT), Boltar

wrote:
On May 6, 11:15 am, Scott wrote:
I thought you could by registering your bank account details on the
tfl site.


You'd have to be an idiot to give your bank details to TfL.


B2003


That is a different question. What the poster said was:

I think Boris should introduce a scheme whereby you
can top up your Oyster automatically when it runs out...

I said I think you can. Are you disputing this?


Did it look like I was disputing it? Do try and keep up.


It looked like you were posting randomly without regard to the
previous posting but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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Scott wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2008 11:06:01 +0100, Tom Barry
wrote:

Boltar wrote:
I think one of the first things boris should at is ditch Kens
idiotic , deliberate and spiteful disparity between the Oyster and
cash fares to deliberately force occasional commuters to use Oyster
to no benefit to themselves but every benefit to TfL.

B2003


That's dreadful. I think Boris should introduce a scheme whereby you
can top up your Oyster automatically when it runs out...

Tom


I thought you could by registering your bank account details on the
tfl site.


I think you might have missed some of the sarcasm in Tom's suggestion
above...

Paul




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