Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:38:45 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
No I was starting from 20 miles north of Winchester at the time about
150 miles further west and another 70 miles south from Chelmsford. I
said it used to take 4 for Devon and 6 hours for Cornwall from there
and was accurate.

But hardly on topic for a Cambridge/London audience (see NGs posted to).


Yes it is. We'll be living under a short-haul holding stack and
flightpath in the near future. And Londoners will be enjoying their
third Heathrow runway. Very ON topic actually.

In message , at 15:10:20 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
No I was starting from 20 miles north of Winchester at the time
about 150 miles further west and another 70 miles south from
Chelmsford. I said it used to take 4 for Devon and 6 hours for
Cornwall from there and was accurate.
But hardly on topic for a Cambridge/London audience (see NGs posted
to).

Yes it is. We'll be living under a short-haul holding stack and
flightpath in the near future. And Londoners will be enjoying their
third Heathrow runway. Very ON topic actually.

Saying that it was possible to drive to the West Country all those years
ago in 4-6hrs is not topical for a Cambridge/London newsgroup.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:10:20 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
No I was starting from 20 miles north of Winchester at the time
about 150 miles further west and another 70 miles south from
Chelmsford. I said it used to take 4 for Devon and 6 hours for
Cornwall from there and was accurate.
But hardly on topic for a Cambridge/London audience (see NGs posted
to).

Yes it is. We'll be living under a short-haul holding stack and
flightpath in the near future. And Londoners will be enjoying their
third Heathrow runway. Very ON topic actually.

Saying that it was possible to drive to the West Country all those years
ago in 4-6hrs is not topical for a Cambridge/London newsgroup.


You can't have been following the thread as I was merely trying to
impress on some of the younger members that people could and did access
both Devon and Cornwall perfectly easily in the days before easyjet and
ryanair began adding another few tonnes of carbon directly to the
atmosphere.1.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...ts-440548.html

1.The carbon comparison

* BY CAR According to the AA Routeplanner, the 257-mile journey can be
driven in just five hours and 22 minutes although traffic bottlenecks,
particularly on the A303 before Honiton in Devon, can add several hours.
Most cars could complete the journey on a single tank of petrol, costing
about £50. Carbon cost: 0.08 tons of CO2, one way

* BY RAIL First Great Western: From July, a high-speed train will take
just over 4 hours between Paddington and Newquay. In the meantime,
passengers are required to board a branch line, adding more than an hour
to the journey time. One-way advance fare from £15.50. Walk-up fare is
£73 return. Carbon cost: 0.02 tons of CO2, one way

* BY PLANE British Airways flight departs Gatwick every day, returning
late in the afternoon. Flight time is one hour, although passengers must
check in two hours in advance. Tickets cost as little as £69 return
included taxes. Unlike Ryanair which flies from Stansted to Newquay,
food and drinks are free. Carbon cost: 0.1 tons CO2, one way

And, btw, who appointed you net nanny for today?

In message , at 17:01:27 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
* BY CAR Carbon cost: 0.08 tons of CO2, one way

* BY RAIL Carbon cost: 0.02 tons of CO2, one way

Those figures are very suspicious for a diesel-powered high speed train.
Maybe it's for a full train and one person in a car.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 17:01:27 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2008, magwitch remarked:
* BY CAR Carbon cost: 0.08 tons of CO2, one way

* BY RAIL Carbon cost: 0.02 tons of CO2, one way

Those figures are very suspicious for a diesel-powered high speed train.
Maybe it's for a full train and one person in a car.

Many trains to Cornwall are pretty near full, so that's not a ludicrous
assumption. The one-person-per car, on the other hand, is less likely, as I
suspect that there are rather more family trips to Cornwall and rather fewer
single-businessperson-on-their-own-in-the-car than is typical of other
journeys.

--
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