Dr J R Stockton gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

Or sit the driver on the top deck.

I think we have a winner!

On 29 Jul 2008 20:45:08 GMT, Adrian wrote:

asdf gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Perhaps the driver should have a radar warning device like airline
pilots "Pull up, Pull up"!

P'raps. A good low-tech alternative would be to put the height visible
on both bridge and bus. It'd be utterly reliable, too. D'you think it'd
catch on?

Evidently it's not utterly reliable.

By "utterly reliable", I mean "it won't break". The technology didn't, it
seems, break. It worked.

The failure lay in the one part of the system that can't easily be
upgraded, redesigned or replaced - the wetware.

PEBSWADS, I think.

In message , Batman55
writes

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7528024.stm for info and
picture. In Old Oak Common Lane.


We should introduce the Darwin principle to bus drivers and get them to
drive the bus from the front of the top deck. I'm guessing the number of
these incidence would drop dramatically :-)

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On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:27:38AM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

Why over-complicate it? Just have a GPS that shows routes *without* low
bridges, that are recommended for use by buses. Then you can avoid other
nasties as well.

And you think bus companies would buy that instead of buying the cheaper
consumer version? After all, that's what haulage companies do, and
that's why lorries and tourist coaches are always getting stuck in small
villages.

Incidentally, when that happens, walls get demolished, gardens churned
up, hedges destroyed etc, just to remove the lorry. Why not just cut
the lorry into little pieces?

And otherwise it's not failsafe (maybe there's a low bridge somewhere
that didn't make it into the gazetteer).

That's not failsafe anyway. What if a low bridge is built over one of
your routes?

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about the German supposed lack of a sense of humour, 29 Aug 2001

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 04:58:22AM -0700, wrote:

All these electronic devices - even the intrusive ones "announcing"
each and every stop. Why are they necessary? On the rare occasion a
passenger need to be told of a particular alighting point, why can't
they tell the driver and he then announces it over the NEVER-USED P.A.
system?

Hear hear!

And why, as happens far too frequently on route 38, does the
announcement say "the destination of this bus has changed" without
continuing "it will now terminate at ..."?

--
David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information

Your call is important to me. To see if it's important to
you I'm going to make you wait on hold for five minutes
before putting you through to Dave's mobile. This call will
be recorded for blackmail and amusement purposes.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:45:30 +0100, David Cantrell
wrote this gibberish:

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 04:58:22AM -0700, wrote:

All these electronic devices - even the intrusive ones "announcing"
each and every stop. Why are they necessary? On the rare occasion a
passenger need to be told of a particular alighting point, why can't
they tell the driver and he then announces it over the NEVER-USED P.A.
system?

Hear hear!

And why, as happens far too frequently on route 38, does the
announcement say "the destination of this bus has changed" without
continuing "it will now terminate at ..."?

That winds me up often, I live at one end of the 38 route and often
use it to get to victoria at the other end, around 50% of the time my
bus won't make-it!

--
Mark Varley
www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk
www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
London, England.

In message , at 15:43:26
on Thu, 31 Jul 2008, David Cantrell remarked:
Why over-complicate it? Just have a GPS that shows routes *without* low
bridges, that are recommended for use by buses. Then you can avoid other
nasties as well.

And you think bus companies would buy that instead of buying the cheaper
consumer version?

This was a choice between two different specialist GPS designs, to fix a
specific hazard; not a choice between a specialist and a consumer
edition.

And otherwise it's not failsafe (maybe there's a low bridge somewhere
that didn't make it into the gazetteer).

That's not failsafe anyway. What if a low bridge is built over one of
your routes?

I'd be a bit surprised if you could get planning permission to build a
new bridge that's too low for a bus, over an existing street.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
15:43:26 on Thu, 31 Jul 2008, David Cantrell
remarked:
Why over-complicate it? Just have a GPS that shows routes *without*
low bridges, that are recommended for use by buses. Then you can
avoid other nasties as well.

And you think bus companies would buy that instead of buying the
cheaper consumer version?

This was a choice between two different specialist GPS designs, to
fix a specific hazard; not a choice between a specialist and a
consumer edition.

And otherwise it's not failsafe (maybe there's a low bridge
somewhere that didn't make it into the gazetteer).

That's not failsafe anyway. What if a low bridge is built over one
of your routes?

I'd be a bit surprised if you could get planning permission to build a
new bridge that's too low for a bus, over an existing street.

I think you could, for a railway.

In message , at 16:51:21 on Thu,
31 Jul 2008, John Rowland
remarked:
I'd be a bit surprised if you could get planning permission to build a
new bridge that's too low for a bus, over an existing street.

I think you could, for a railway.

Rebuild a bridge to the same height as before - but a brand new low
bridge?? What kind of railway would that be, anyway?
--
Roland Perry

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:08:50 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

Rebuild a bridge to the same height as before - but a brand new low
bridge?? What kind of railway would that be, anyway?

I'm wondering if he might be referring to the reinstatement of a
railway with historic rights, e.g. the WHR.

Neil

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