On 25 Nov, 09:06, "solar penguin"
wrote:
There's Gipsy Hill on Southern. *That has mirrors but no cameras.

When three car trains run on the Northern City they stop halfway along
the northbound platform at Highbury & Islington, where there are no
cameras or mirrors. The trains are definitely OPO and there's no
platform dispatcher either.

(Various other FCC stations have mirrors only, where the platforms are
straight enough)

U

"Mr Thant" wrote

When three car trains run on the Northern City they stop halfway along
the northbound platform at Highbury & Islington, where there are no
cameras or mirrors. The trains are definitely OPO and there's no
platform dispatcher either.

Are they DOO now? When DOO started on the GN inner suburbans they took on a
guard between Drayton Park and Moorgate.

Peter

"Peter Masson" wrote...
When three car trains run on the Northern City they stop halfway along
the northbound platform at Highbury & Islington, where there are no
cameras or mirrors. The trains are definitely OPO and there's no
platform dispatcher either.
Are they DOO now? When DOO started on the GN inner suburbans they took on
a
guard between Drayton Park and Moorgate.

They've been DOO for a good while now; Drayton park has (?had) mirrors
halfway up the platofrm when they lost the second man.

Come to think of it, I don't recall ever seeing them at Highbury - and I
don't recall ever seeing a dispatcher in the off-peak when three car trains
are still used.
--

Andrew

On 25 Nov, 12:57, "Peter Masson" wrote:
Are they DOO now? When DOO started on the GN inner suburbans they took on a
guard between Drayton Park and Moorgate.

They have new-ish LCD CCTV monitors for the driver embedded into the
tunnel walls at most stations, with "open doors other side" signs. So
if they do carry a guard, there's not a lot for them to do. I can't
say I've ever seen a guard, but then I haven't been looking.

U

DOO

CCTV

mirrors


OK, I stand corrected on the DOO mirror / CCTV issue.

However, a question then, in our 21st HSE nazi state would they not
required CCTV for any new DOO implementation ? Perhaps I have read
this somewhere any maybe thats where I got the idea from ?

--
Nick

D7666 wrote:
DOO

CCTV

mirrors


OK, I stand corrected on the DOO mirror / CCTV issue.

However, a question then, in our 21st HSE nazi state would they not
required CCTV for any new DOO implementation ? Perhaps I have read
this somewhere any maybe thats where I got the idea from ?

Surely it would depend on the length of the train? A mirror might be
perfectly acceptable for a 2- or 3-car train, but not for 6 or 8 cars.

By the way, please don't use the word 'nazi' to describe something that's
just irritating. It's gratuitous exaggeration, doesn't help your argument,
and devalues the horrors of the real Nazis.
--
Richard J.
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On 25 Nov, 14:05, "Richard J." wrote:

Surely it would depend on the length of the train? *A mirror might be
perfectly acceptable for a 2- or 3-car train, but not for 6 or 8 cars.

Might it be easier to fit CCTV to the train rather than the platform?
I think some of the Electrostars have this facility?

Neil

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On 25 Nov, 14:05, "Richard J." wrote:

Might it be easier to fit CCTV to the train rather than the platform?
I think some of the Electrostars have this facility?

Southern trains have this.

In article
,
Neil Williams writes
Might it be easier to fit CCTV to the train rather than the platform?

You still need to fit the cameras and the wiring. All it saves is the
cost of the monitors, but at the expense of a transmission system.

The Northern and Central Lines have this, but that's mostly because
there's no room to retro-fit the monitors in tube stations.

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On Nov 25, 2:05 pm, "Richard J." wrote:
By the way, please don't use the word 'nazi' to describe something that's
just irritating. It's gratuitous exaggeration, doesn't help your argument,
and devalues the horrors of the real Nazis.

Lighten up. Its a common colloquialism and the nazis are just another
part history for anyone under the age of 63.

B2003