On 7 Feb, 18:47, lonelytraveller
wrote:
So you are saying the first leg of that corridor is aligned approx "4
O'clock" from the ticket office (ie parallel to the Victoria Line
escalators? It feels to me more like "2 o'clock", but it's easy to get
disorientated under ground.

http://planningonline.camden.gov.uk/...g-2085745.pdf?...

I've just noticed that the same diagram (page 5) also shows the old
northern line lift shafts and (spiral) emergency stairs - just west of
the junction between the tunnel-thats-just-been-closed and the tunnel-
that-will-be-open-next-year.

Page 11 also seems to indicate that the "round thing" at the top of
the disused picadilly lift shafts is now used as a "supply/extract
duct" and "draft relief for the Victoria Line".

In message
, at
10:34:10 on Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:
Now here's an interesting image:
http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/kxpem/images/KX_lul_3.jpg

Is that "before" or "after"?

The curved passageway on the left is the one that's closing, and it
does start by heading east.

So it must be a "before" picture - and the passage to the NTH is missing
too.

There's what appears to be a lift at the north end of the tube ticket
hall stairs, and an opening in the north wall on the paid side of the
ticket barrier that could also be a lift, and appears to very near to
the curved passageway. I'd reckon the latter is the Northern Line
lift.

They do look like small lifts - but what are they doing on a "before"
picture?
--
Roland Perry

In message
s.com, at 10:47:03 on Sat, 7 Feb 2009, lonelytraveller nospam_lonelytr
remarked:
So you are saying the first leg of that corridor is aligned approx "4
O'clock" from the ticket office (ie parallel to the Victoria Line
escalators? It feels to me more like "2 o'clock", but it's easy to get
disorientated under ground.

http://planningonline.camden.gov.uk/...2085745.pdf?ex
tension=.pdf&id=2085745&location=VOLUME3&contentTy pe=application/pdf&pag
eCount=1

Page 5

Thanks. That shows the arrangement very well. Doesn't explain the
closure of the passage as being necessary to build the lift, though;
even if the passage is eventually blocked off because of the new exit to
the plaza.
--
Roland Perry

On 7 Feb, 20:46, Roland Perry wrote:
http://planningonline.camden.gov.uk/...2085745.pdf?ex

tension=.pdf&id=2085745&location=VOLUME3&contentTy pe=application/pdf&pag
eCount=1



Page 5

Thanks. That shows the arrangement very well. Doesn't explain the
closure of the passage as being necessary to build the lift, though;
even if the passage is eventually blocked off because of the new exit to
the plaza.

It doesn't show the lift either. I think the lift is going in the
corner of that passageway, adjacent to the head of the picadilly
escalator, just before it turns left up the steps to the other half of
the passage, where sock shop was.

On 7 Feb, 20:57, lonelytraveller
wrote:
http://planningonline.camden.gov.uk/...2085745.pdf?ex
tension=.pdf&id=2085745&location=VOLUME3&contentTy pe=application/pdf&pag
eCount=1

Page 5
Thanks. That shows the arrangement very well.

While I was there....
I found this:

http://planningonline.camden.gov.uk/...df&pageCount=6

Its an eccentric plan they made, before there was the idea of the
northern or western ticket halls, to link all the deep level lines up
directly with the metropolitan line.

What it illustrates very well, is how the platforms and lines relate
to each other, and it even has the rail link to the piccadilly lines
from the southbound northern line at Euston.

It also shows the position of the old northern line lift and emergency
stairs (the two circles between the platforms).

What's most made clear is that the "round thing" on the surface is in
the wrong place for the original picadilly line lifts - they were
roughly where the hotel curve crosses the sw-bound victoria line. As I
mentioned before there were three parallel tunnels leading between the
platforms and the lift, two from the headwalls (or thereabouts) for
exiting the station, and one longer one for those entering - the
remains of the latter can be seen in the diagram to the left of the
current picadilly concourse just where the proposed passage from the
met joins it.

In message
, at
12:57:44 on Sat, 7 Feb 2009, lonelytraveller
remarked:
Page 5

Thanks. That shows the arrangement very well. Doesn't explain the
closure of the passage as being necessary to build the lift, though;
even if the passage is eventually blocked off because of the new exit to
the plaza.

It doesn't show the lift either. I think the lift is going in the
corner of that passageway, adjacent to the head of the picadilly
escalator, just before it turns left up the steps to the other half of
the passage, where sock shop was.

Isn't the lift the mustard-coloured thing? Also the blue one features in
one of the artists impressions posted earlier today.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/kx-tube-hall.jpg
--
Roland Perry

On 7 Feb, 21:29, Roland Perry wrote:
Isn't the lift the mustard-coloured thing? Also the blue one features in
one of the artists impressions posted earlier today.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/kx-tube-hall.jpg
--
Roland Perry

It looks like the blue one would be on the other side of the tracks
from the platform, and the mustard one would be directly over the
tracks, so I'd have to say that I doubt it was either.

On 7 Feb, 21:29, Roland Perry wrote:
It doesn't show the lift either. I think the lift is going in the
corner of that passageway, adjacent to the head of the picadilly
escalator, just before it turns left up the steps to the other half of
the passage, where sock shop was.
Its just occurred to me that maybe they are closing the passage so
that they can turn it into a gentle slope downwards, accessed from the
airside - it would join up with the old northern line lift shaft very
smoothly if they did that.

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message
,
at 07:44:09 on Sat, 7 Feb 2009, lonelytraveller
remarked:

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/kx-composite-c.jpg
5 along by 3 up.

Thanks. (But isn't that quite a long way from the recently closed
corridor?)

Recently closed? The access from the concourse doesn't close till tomorrow.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 7 Feb, 20:46, Roland Perry wrote:
Thanks. That shows the arrangement very well. Doesn't explain the
closure of the passage as being necessary to build the lift, though;
even if the passage is eventually blocked off because of the new exit to
the plaza.

Even if the lift isn't itself in the corridor, the builders still need
a way to access the site and to get the spoil out. Closing the
passageway means they can come in from the north without otherwise
interrupting passenger flow.

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