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BTW, I meant westwards, not eastwards
![]() Isn't the problem that Broad St was on a viaduct while Liverpool St is in a cutting? The approaches are also in rather different directions. ....firstly, yes, which is why demolition was required. ....secondly, yes, but for a few hundred metres or so they are both heading north until the eastern line turn east, easily enough for the throat required for the new platforms. |
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On 2 Apr, 10:42, Jamie Thompson wrote:
...firstly, yes, which is why demolition was required. Not cutting exactly. The northernmost pair are in actual tunnel (or "covered way" at least) west of Brick Lane. ...secondly, yes, but for a few hundred metres or so they are both heading north until the eastern line turn east, easily enough for the throat required for the new platforms. Only if you demolish an enormous swathe of Shoreditch. And if you're planning to 8 track the line west of Bethnal Green junction (which you probably need to do to have enough trains to need more platforms), there's an enormous amount of digging to do as well. Hence my suggestion of re-using the Bishopsgate Goods Yard viaduct route, which starts at roughly Bethnal Green, and would require far less demolition. You could even have used the original GE19 bridge, and maybe the Braithwaite viaduct, and Broad Street station itself. U |
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On 2 Apr, 13:04, Mr Thant
wrote: Only if you demolish an enormous swathe of Shoreditch. And if you're planning to 8 track the line west of Bethnal Green junction (which you probably need to do to have enough trains to need more platforms), there's an enormous amount of digging to do as well. Here's a quick dump of what I mean: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=...16ea694c6d0ce2 ....I'm not clear how that entails demolishing a great chunk of Shoreditch? A couple of buildings on the high street, yes, but new shops could be constructed afterwards to replace them on the top of the tunnel. Bear in mind I'm not advocating this now....the point I was making that had this been built in the basement of those skyscrapers when they were being built on Broad Street's still-warm corpse, we could have had both a station and the buildings. Dispose of the GE13 bridge and ramp and you're clear for more tracks to Tapp Street, only a (literal!) stone's throw from Bethnal Green Junction. Hence my suggestion of re-using the Bishopsgate Goods Yard viaduct route, which starts at roughly Bethnal Green, and would require far less demolition. You could even have used the original GE19 bridge, and maybe the Braithwaite viaduct, and Broad Street station itself. An equally valid suggestion that I concluded as well myself at first when I first saw the aerial imagery. Downsides to it are that you would have less additional room for more tracks into as you'd essentially have a big division between the stations and their throats, and and you'd also gain some width from not having the Bishopsgate structure there at all (clearances, etc). You'd also have a two-level station, which would be less convenient than having everything on the level...and finally, you'd not have the massive cash injection BR got from selling the site. My idea may have provided less than what they actually got, but it would still be more than preserving Broad Street. |
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