Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad street
as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but because you
can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up during the 70s.

If Broad street was still open today would it be a useful way of relieving
passenger and train congestion on other lines and termini? I assume when it
was demonlished it wasn't serving much useful purpose but then back then
the city had less people working in it. Would they be able to get away with
demolishing it today?


B2003

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:48:08 +0000 (UTC)
wrote:


Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad street
as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but because you
can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up during the 70s.


Duh, forgot to add the link.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...et/index.shtml

B2003

wrote:
Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad
street as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but
because you can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up
during the 70s.

If Broad street was still open today would it be a useful way of
relieving passenger and train congestion on other lines and termini?
I assume when it was demonlished it wasn't serving much useful
purpose but then back then the city had less people working in it.
Would they be able to get away with demolishing it today?


It would have been an interesting problem for the current ELL rebuilding
project at the very least, if the Kingsland viaduct route had still been
operational under Silverlink Metro, and let's assume it had four trains per
hour on its 2 tracks. So Stratford would probably have had less NLL services
due to the overall capacity Camden - Dalston Junction.

How might the LO & ELL changes have panned out then. Would the ELLX project
still have connected into the Kingsland viaduct and run round to Highbury,
after all it's four tracks wide, or just run up to terminate and interchange
at Dalston.

Or would ELL be as built, but with Broad St as another branch terminus, so
less trains cross the river...

Paul S

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:50:30 +0100
Paul Corfield wrote:


On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:07:25 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

wrote:
Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad
street as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but
because you can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up
during the 70s.

If Broad street was still open today would it be a useful way of
relieving passenger and train congestion on other lines and termini?

Doubtful - it was far too big for the traffic using it. The North London

Certainly seems underused. Though what surprises me is they closed the whole
branch. I don't see why they didn't keep perhaps a single platform low cost
low maintenance station a few hundred metres back up the line after the main
station had been demolished to make way for Broadgate.

B2003

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:18:10 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

Certainly seems underused. Though what surprises me is they closed the whole
branch. I don't see why they didn't keep perhaps a single platform low cost
low maintenance station a few hundred metres back up the line after the main
station had been demolished to make way for Broadgate.

Running it into Liverpool St made more sense, as they indeed did,
though this didn't for whatever reasons prove successful.

Neil

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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

On Apr 1, 10:23*am, (Neil Williams)
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:18:10 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
Certainly seems underused. Though what surprises me is they closed the whole
branch. I don't see why they didn't keep perhaps a single platform low cost
low maintenance station a few hundred metres back up the line after the main
station had been demolished to make way for Broadgate.

Running it into Liverpool St made more sense, as they indeed did,
though this didn't for whatever reasons prove successful.


Running via Hackney and the Graham Road curve added time and distance
to the journey. Additionally by the sounds of it BR weren't very keen
to make this service successful.

In article , aooy65
@dsl.pipex.com says...
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:07:25 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

wrote:
Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad
street as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but
because you can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up
during the 70s.

If Broad street was still open today would it be a useful way of
relieving passenger and train congestion on other lines and termini?

Doubtful - it was far too big for the traffic using it. The North London
Line was nowhere near as popular then as it is now and I doubt there was
any expansionist appetite anywhere in BR. Again while Liverpool Street
was busy commuting was not at the levels seen in recent years.

Looking at the photos on Boltar's link does anyone know where the war
memorial went to? I think I only used Broad Street a handful of times
despite walking past it many times when I was at City Poly on Moorgate.


Don't know where the memorial went, sadly don't even remember it.

I would like to know however what became of a model locomotive in a
glass case, the coupling rods of which moved once a penny was inserted
into a slot. I assume this benefited a railway charity. It was a 4-4-0
tank engine.

As a young person I was always fascinated by the Richmond trains with
their barred windows so that decapitations didn't occur in the tunnel at
Hampstead Heath.

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

I just hope the contract prices come in within the budget and we
don't get an excuse arise for it to be chopped
given today's budgetary announcements.

What did I miss there?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote in message ...
Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad street
as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but because you
can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up during the 70s.

If Broad street was still open today would it be a useful way of relieving
passenger and train congestion on other lines and termini? I assume when
it
was demonlished it wasn't serving much useful purpose but then back then
the city had less people working in it. Would they be able to get away
with
demolishing it today?


Broad Street was a useless station because the only lines that could run to
it were Richmond and Watford. It took up far too much space for the small
number of people that arrived there.

When they demolished it, they routed the Richmond trains to Stratford (and
later to N Woolwich) to create the "modern NLL and built the Graham Road
curve (into LST) for the rush hour only Watford services. After a few years
they gave up with the latter.

Before the Richmond services were diverted to Stratford, there was no
service on this part of the line

So yes, they could close it now!

tim

"tim....." wrote in message
...

wrote in message ...
Nick Catford seems to have added a shed load more photos of broad street
as was. Quite interesting not just for the railway itself but because you
can see the slow change in the City as the towers go up during the 70s.

If Broad street was still open today would it be a useful way of
relieving
passenger and train congestion on other lines and termini? I assume when
it
was demonlished it wasn't serving much useful purpose but then back then
the city had less people working in it. Would they be able to get away
with
demolishing it today?


Broad Street was a useless station because the only lines that could run
to it were Richmond and Watford. It took up far too much space for the
small number of people that arrived there.

When they demolished it, they routed the Richmond trains to Stratford (and
later to N Woolwich) to create the "modern NLL and built the Graham Road
curve (into LST) for the rush hour only Watford services. After a few
years they gave up with the latter.

Before the Richmond services were diverted to Stratford, there was no
service on this part of the line

So yes, they could close it now!

tim

And what about the trains that used to come from the Great Northern lines.
As for the distasterous service into Liverpool St. Was it downgraded to just
one train in the morning and one in the evening. Hardly surprising no sane
person used it and hey presto there was the justification to stop running
it. Just like post Beeching.

Kevin