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Britains Crap Roads, Answers wanted
"David J Rainey" wrote in message ... In article , says... Yeah whatever I think you will find I am right The facts have been posted. You are quite wrong. David What facts??? everyone berates me for facts yet provide no sources of their own other than their senile memories. I said yuppies came from the 1980s, evertyone said rubbish, I post a link it all goes quiet, how many more facts do you want, I can prove mine can you yours??? |
Britains Crap Roads, Answers wanted
"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... iantheengineer wrote: Please prove this point and I will accept it You're the one who claimed that the economy was bankrupt when Labour came to power. It's up to you to prove your case. -- Having problems understanding usenet? Or do you simply need help but are getting unhelpful answers? Subscribe to: uk.net.beginners for friendly advice in a flame-free environment. Its always upto me, I keep proving my points but no-one else does, I throw down the gauntlet. |
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"Paul Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:48:47 -0000, "iantheengineer" wrote: http://www.cfit.gov.uk/research/ebp/key/01.htm I can't see anything there about levels of car use. A central cause of these high congestion levels is that British people make more use of cars than any other European country, despite having below average car ownership. Almost nine out of ten motorised journeys (car, bus, motorbike) in the UK are by car, compared with an EU average of just over eight out of ten. This proves my point whole heatedly but no doubt memebers of this NG will question the data, but what can you do, people will always doubt studies unless they themselves do them This seems far more balanced and reasonable to me: http://www.conservatives.com/getfile...rt&ref=POLICYD OCUMENT/1664&type=pdf -- Paul Smith Scotland, UK http://www.safespeed.org.uk please remove "XYZ" to reply by email If its from the Cons ( there is no play on words) then it couldnt be less balanced speed cameras cost lives |
Britains Crap Roads, Answers wanted
"Nick Finnigan" wrote in message ... "iantheengineer" wrote in message ... "Nick Finnigan" wrote in message ... "iantheengineer" wrote in message ... "Nick Finnigan" wrote in message ... "iantheengineer" wrote in message ... Not at all I have a car my wife has a car we enjoy days out in the car. The continentals actually have higher levels of car ownership, just they use them less. Can you give details of that lower car use than the UK ? I can't see anything there about levels of car use. I quote A central cause of these high congestion levels is that British people make more use of cars than any other European country, despite having below average car ownership. Almost nine out of ten motorised journeys (car, bus, motorbike) in the UK are by car, compared with an EU average of just over eight out of ten. That claims that other countries make many more journeys by motorbikes, not make less use of cars. This proves my point whole heatedly but no doubt memebers of this NG will question the data, but what can you do, people will always doubt studies unless they themselves do them I see no numbers for passenger miles in cars for any countries. (even though the latest ones are at http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups /dft_transstats/documents/page/dft_transstats_025223.pdf I suggest you read it again |
Britains Crap Roads, Answers wanted
"Nick Finnigan" wrote in message ... "iantheengineer" wrote in message ... To continue to build roads will continue the problem. The answer is puvblic transport, but public transport cannot cater for all journeys and therefore over time journeys will need to become more corridored. For example go into any city during the am peak and the tidality of the flow is there to be seen. IF we were to get all of the people from their cars onto public transport, or even better living nearer to the workplace, the congestion would be far less. cars. Without cars on the urban road network public transport would be faster and more reliable. How fast would urban public transport be with no cars on the road? (and no vans, cycles, taxis etc. if that helps). Is this a question, is it not obvious enough. It will be exactly the travel time + the stops for pick up/drop off, without any delay occurring due to congestion, and there would be no need for bus lanes! |
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"JNugent" wrote in message ... wrote: Ive explained it in pre-school language Indeed, indeed. But you should aim higher and try to rise above your natural milieu. I have to lower my standards to be understood by the lay people. |
Britains Crap Roads, Answers wanted
"Steve Firth" wrote in message . .. iantheengineer wrote: They cancelled the road improvements to make the trains seem more attractive out of political dogma. It was the series of train crashes and the Railtrack meltdown that forced them to do an about turn. It was also on the back of research that idicated that road building was not the answer That's good. Then building more rail links mustn't be the answer either. There's no point improving the Channel Tunnel route because all it will do is create more traffic. Similarly no point in having MPs, all they will do is create more laws. Lets get rid of unions while we are at it, all they will do is get bigger, attract more nmembers then squander their dues on rich living for workshy *******s. I can really go with your thinking on this one, ianthepillock. -- Having problems understanding usenet? Or do you simply need help but are getting unhelpful answers? Subscribe to: uk.net.beginners for friendly advice in a flame-free environment. Not everything works on the same principles are you so stupid??? Water flows under gravity does that mean rock will too??? According to Steve yes, so when we build culverts for rocks we need to design them the same as for water??!??? The point you are missing is that without the ability to travel people do not consider travel, as soon as you give the means to travel and this becomes as or more convenient than not travelling giving them a new job with better money etc etc, then they will travel. Thius we have one extra car on the road already covering longer distances. It is the road network that has given the labour market the freedom to move. Now somewhere there is a happy medium, we cant stay in the dark ages all confined to our villages, but similarily we cannot keep travelling at the rates we do. Anyway Steve I think theres a village missing an idiot isnt it time you returned |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:20:15 -0000, "iantheengineer"
wrote: http://www.cfit.gov.uk/research/ebp/key/01.htm This seems far more balanced and reasonable to me: http://www.conservatives.com/getfile.../1664&type=pdf If its from the Cons ( there is no play on words) then it couldnt be less balanced You prefer the word of an raving ignoramus and spin merchant like Begg? http://www.safespeed.org.uk/begg.html Really? Why not write to him and ask him to answer my questions? -- Paul Smith Scotland, UK http://www.safespeed.org.uk please remove "XYZ" to reply by email speed cameras cost lives |
Britains Crap Roads, Answers wanted
"iantheengineer" wrote in message
... "Nick Finnigan" wrote in message ... I see no numbers for passenger miles in cars for any countries. I suggest you read it again I have done. Where does it give any numbers for car passenger-miles per person-year in the UK? |
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