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W K November 6th 03 11:21 AM

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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W K wrote:

The rock in the convection cell would not move without gravity. It is

a
direct result of gravity.


That isn't water flowing.


No, it's rock flowing. It's rock flowing under gravity.


The actually continents drifting are not "rock flowing under gravity".



Philip Bradshaw November 6th 03 01:12 PM

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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W K wrote:

No, it's rock flowing. It's rock flowing under gravity.


The actually continents drifting are not "rock flowing under gravity".


I didn't claim they were, however I could not think of an appropriate
shorthand for a convection cell of flowing rock.

Maybe in terms of friction[1], along the lines of theory of a continuum of
models of friction separated only by orders of distance and time, quantum
level through to red-blue shift in astronomy, gravitational forces at
geological scale figuring in there according to considerations of single
planetary body with or without external forces thrown in.
[1] First define /friction/, what causes forces opposing motion; I like the
/noise/ theory myself.

Everything moves...


iantheengineer November 6th 03 04:17 PM

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"JNugent" wrote in message
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wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:


[ ... ]


Motorways take about 50 square miles of the UK - 0.05% of the
total land area.


So?????


So it makes you look pretty silly when you ranted: "So where do you
stop, when the whole country is one great network of
asphalt???", doesn't it?


Look it up, an analogy. It was an extreme statement of a truth we
are ina a society that would keep paving over green areas to provide
faster access.


Look up "analogy". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
Look up "truth". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
I have never heard the expression "an extreme statement of a truth"
before, but I don't think characterising motorway land-usage of
0.05% as "the whole country is one great network of asphalt" has
much to do with truth, let alone any concept of "extreme statement"
of it.


I suggest you re-read the definition of analogy, I did look it up
before I used it


Why?

Didn't you know what it means?

Oops! Of course you didn't...

and it says "partial similarity"


There is *no* similarity between a motorway land-take of 0.05% of the UK's
landmass and your fearful phrase "the whole country is one great network

of
asphalt" - not even a "partial similarity".

Admit it - you thought the percentage was *much* higher than 0.05%, didn't
you? :-)



Not at all I had no idea of the figure, I wasnt alluding to figure just
saying that if we keep paving to satisfy demand we will pave over a hell of
a lot more green areas



iantheengineer November 6th 03 04:20 PM

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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iantheengineer wrote:

Not everything works on the same principles are you so stupid??? Water

flows
under gravity does that mean rock will too???


Well yes it does actually.

Avalanche.
Landslip.
Continental drift
Lava flow

These appear to be some concepts missing from your limited education.

[snip waffle]

Anyway Steve I think theres a village missing an idiot


Why not apply for the vacancy then numbnuts?

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An avalanche ( arent these made of snow which formed water!!!) made of rock
, I think you are talking of a pyroclastic cloud. Go on then Steve upto what
level and in what areas are you educated too???



Pete Smith November 6th 03 04:27 PM

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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iantheengineer wrote:

Not everything works on the same principles are you so stupid??? Water

flows
under gravity does that mean rock will too???


Well yes it does actually.

Avalanche.
Landslip.
Continental drift
Lava flow



An avalanche ( arent these made of snow which formed water!!!) made of rock
, I think you are talking of a pyroclastic cloud. Go on then Steve upto what
level and in what areas are you educated too???


You're thinking of a pyroclastic _flow_, which is hot rocks & dust from a
volcano, behaving in _exactly_ the same way as water.

One of these is what "destroyed" Pompeii.

BTW, isn't rocks rolling down a hillside, behaving like water called a
"Rockslide"? (I'd personally have used the term Avalanche too - I've seen
it used in relationship to rocks before).

Pete.

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iantheengineer November 6th 03 04:28 PM

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"NM" wrote in message
m...
iantheengineer wrote:


How fast would urban public transport be with no cars
on the road? (and no vans, cycles, taxis etc. if that helps).



Is this a question, is it not obvious enough.

It will be exactly the travel time + the stops for pick up/drop off,

without
any delay occurring due to congestion, and there would be no need for

bus
lanes!

Without busses and bus lanes there would be even less congestion.



How many cars does it take to move 72 people, at say 5 seats per car 15,
okay and what area does a car take up 5.75m by 2.5m roughly so 14.4m2 times
15 = 216m2, and what area does a double decker take 12.9m long by 2.5m =
32.25m2, hmm I need say no more.




iantheengineer November 6th 03 04:30 PM

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"JNugent" wrote in message
...
wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:


[ ... ]


Motorways take about 50 square miles of the UK - 0.05% of the
total land area.


So?????


So it makes you look pretty silly when you ranted: "So where do you
stop, when the whole country is one great network of
asphalt???", doesn't it?


Look it up, an analogy. It was an extreme statement of a truth we
are ina a society that would keep paving over green areas to provide
faster access.


Look up "analogy". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
Look up "truth". It doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
I have never heard the expression "an extreme statement of a truth"
before, but I don't think characterising motorway land-usage of
0.05% as "the whole country is one great network of asphalt" has
much to do with truth, let alone any concept of "extreme statement"
of it.


I suggest you re-read the definition of analogy, I did look it up
before I used it


Why?

Didn't you know what it means?

Oops! Of course you didn't...

and it says "partial similarity"


There is *no* similarity between a motorway land-take of 0.05% of the UK's
landmass and your fearful phrase "the whole country is one great network

of
asphalt" - not even a "partial similarity".

Admit it - you thought the percentage was *much* higher than 0.05%, didn't
you? :-)



The reason for looking it up was for clarification so that pmpous pricks
like yourself dont question itts usage, in my eyes irt was correctly used,
if you are sad enough to analyse every word tyou need help.



Ian Edwards November 6th 03 04:47 PM

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iantheengineer wrote:

How many cars does it take to move 72 people, at say 5 seats per car 15,
okay and what area does a car take up 5.75m by 2.5m roughly so 14.4m2 times
15 = 216m2, and what area does a double decker take 12.9m long by 2.5m =
32.25m2, hmm I need say no more.


Very good. Now get the bus to go in 15 different directions at the same
time. :-)

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Clive November 6th 03 04:53 PM

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In message , iantheengineer
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The reason for looking it up was for clarification so that pmpous
pricks like yourself dont question itts usage, in my eyes irt was
correctly used, if you are sad enough to analyse every word tyou need
help.

Alcohol is nice, isn't it.
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W K November 6th 03 05:10 PM

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"Ian Edwards" wrote in message
...
iantheengineer wrote:

How many cars does it take to move 72 people, at say 5 seats per car 15,
okay and what area does a car take up 5.75m by 2.5m roughly so 14.4m2

times
15 = 216m2, and what area does a double decker take 12.9m long by 2.5m =
32.25m2, hmm I need say no more.


Very good. Now get the bus to go in 15 different directions at the same
time. :-)


congestion is usually less severe where people are going in all different
directions.




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