On 8 Oct 2003 16:51:47 -0700, (Sam) wrote:

I've been reading some posts recently that asked about the
availability of a geographical underground map. FYI, I have designed a
flash animation with collaboration with the London Transport Museum
that shows the relationship between the London Underground Map, a
geographical map and shows a streetmap too - just in case there are
any doubters. Just thought you might find it interesting...
Click on the link to The Real Underground at:
http://www.fourthway.co.uk


Sam

Its fascinating, I'd seen it before but had not noticed you could
superimpose the street map.

One small issue is that in the cartographic version Farringdon (I
think) has been incorrectly labeled as Moorgate. It's a shame you have
not indicated the positions of all of the stations, then I could be
sure it was Farringdon and not Barbican.

--
Peter Sumner

Peter Sumner wrote:
On 8 Oct 2003 16:51:47 -0700, (Sam) wrote:

I've been reading some posts recently that asked about the
availability of a geographical underground map. FYI, I have designed
a flash animation with collaboration with the London Transport Museum
that shows the relationship between the London Underground Map, a
geographical map and shows a streetmap too - just in case there are
any doubters. Just thought you might find it interesting...
Click on the link to The Real Underground at:
http://www.fourthway.co.uk

Its fascinating, I'd seen it before but had not noticed you could
superimpose the street map.

One small issue is that in the cartographic version Farringdon (I
think) has been incorrectly labeled as Moorgate. It's a shame you have
not indicated the positions of all of the stations, then I could be
sure it was Farringdon and not Barbican.

Yes, it is Farringdon, because that's where the bend in the Circle line
occurs.

It's very well done, even including gradual colour changes for the lines
that changed colour after 1933 (e.g. Bakerloo red to brown). If I may
suggest one change, it would be to include the kink in the Waterloo and
City, which runs from Waterloo to Blackfriars, then turns right to run
underneath Queen Victoria Street (nearly) as far as Bank.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Peter Sumner wrote:
On 8 Oct 2003 16:51:47 -0700, (Sam) wrote:

I've been reading some posts recently that asked about the
availability of a geographical underground map. FYI, I have designed
a flash animation with collaboration with the London Transport Museum
that shows the relationship between the London Underground Map, a
geographical map and shows a streetmap too - just in case there are
any doubters. Just thought you might find it interesting...
Click on the link to The Real Underground at:
http://www.fourthway.co.uk

Its fascinating, I'd seen it before but had not noticed you could
superimpose the street map.

One small issue is that in the cartographic version Farringdon (I
think) has been incorrectly labeled as Moorgate. It's a shame you have
not indicated the positions of all of the stations, then I could be
sure it was Farringdon and not Barbican.

Yes, it is Farringdon, because that's where the bend in the Circle line
occurs.

It's very well done, even including gradual colour changes for the lines
that changed colour after 1933 (e.g. Bakerloo red to brown). If I may
suggest one change, it would be to include the kink in the Waterloo and
City, which runs from Waterloo to Blackfriars, then turns right to run
underneath Queen Victoria Street (nearly) as far as Bank.

If there are any more criticisms then the map is simply going to be thrown
into the dustbin.
OK?
Alan

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Peter Sumner wrote:
On 8 Oct 2003 16:51:47 -0700, (Sam) wrote:

I've been reading some posts recently that asked about the
availability of a geographical underground map. FYI, I have
designed a flash animation with collaboration with the London
Transport Museum that shows the relationship between the London
Underground Map, a geographical map and shows a streetmap too -
just in case there are any doubters. Just thought you might find
it interesting...
Click on the link to The Real Underground at:
http://www.fourthway.co.uk

Its fascinating, I'd seen it before but had not noticed you could
superimpose the street map.

One small issue is that in the cartographic version Farringdon (I
think) has been incorrectly labeled as Moorgate. It's a shame you
have not indicated the positions of all of the stations, then I
could be sure it was Farringdon and not Barbican.

Yes, it is Farringdon, because that's where the bend in the Circle
line occurs.

It's very well done, even including gradual colour changes for the
lines that changed colour after 1933 (e.g. Bakerloo red to brown).
If I may suggest one change, it would be to include the kink in the
Waterloo and City, which runs from Waterloo to Blackfriars, then
turns right to run underneath Queen Victoria Street (nearly) as far
as Bank.

If there are any more criticisms then the map is simply going to be
thrown into the dustbin.
OK?

You'd better tell that to the bloke that asked for a circular Circle line,
then.
;-)

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Alan O'Brien wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
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Peter Sumner wrote:
On 8 Oct 2003 16:51:47 -0700, (Sam) wrote:

I've been reading some posts recently that asked about the
availability of a geographical underground map. FYI, I have
designed a flash animation with collaboration with the London
Transport Museum that shows the relationship between the London
Underground Map, a geographical map and shows a streetmap too -
just in case there are any doubters. Just thought you might find
it interesting...
Click on the link to The Real Underground at:
http://www.fourthway.co.uk

Its fascinating, I'd seen it before but had not noticed you could
superimpose the street map.

One small issue is that in the cartographic version Farringdon (I
think) has been incorrectly labeled as Moorgate. It's a shame you
have not indicated the positions of all of the stations, then I
could be sure it was Farringdon and not Barbican.

Yes, it is Farringdon, because that's where the bend in the Circle
line occurs.

It's very well done, even including gradual colour changes for the
lines that changed colour after 1933 (e.g. Bakerloo red to brown).
If I may suggest one change, it would be to include the kink in the
Waterloo and City, which runs from Waterloo to Blackfriars, then
turns right to run underneath Queen Victoria Street (nearly) as far
as Bank.

If there are any more criticisms then the map is simply going to be
thrown into the dustbin.
OK?

You'd better tell that to the bloke that asked for a circular Circle line,
then.

Fair enough.
Actually, now I think about it, a rectangular Circle Line would be easier.
Alan

Alan O'Brien wrote:
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Alan O'Brien wrote:

If there are any more criticisms then the map is simply going to be
thrown into the dustbin.
OK?

You'd better tell that to the bloke that asked for a circular Circle
line, then.

Fair enough.
Actually, now I think about it, a rectangular Circle Line would be
easier. Alan

The Beck diagram had a rectangular Circle Line from 1954 to 1959.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Alan O'Brien wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
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Alan O'Brien wrote:

If there are any more criticisms then the map is simply going
to be thrown into the dustbin.
OK?

You'd better tell that to the bloke that asked for a circular
Circle line, then.

Fair enough.
Actually, now I think about it, a rectangular Circle Line would
be easier. Alan

The Beck diagram had a rectangular Circle Line from 1954 to 1959.

And there was a prototype drawing by Beck of an oval shaped circle
line.

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:25:10 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

Alan O'Brien wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
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Alan O'Brien wrote:

If there are any more criticisms then the map is simply going to be
thrown into the dustbin.
OK?

You'd better tell that to the bloke that asked for a circular Circle
line, then.

Fair enough.
Actually, now I think about it, a rectangular Circle Line would be
easier. Alan

The Beck diagram had a rectangular Circle Line from 1954 to 1959.

Hey, Sam, how about changing the animation so it morphs from each
version of the map to the next?? Now that *would* be good! ;-)

Charlie

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