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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
Could anyone tell me whether it's OK to take a Brompton (folded) on tube trains, including at peak times? |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
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Could anyone tell me whether it's OK to take a Brompton (folded) on tube trains, including at peak times? Yes, it's OK, folded. It's quite a heavy lump though and the little wheels on the carrier aren't too helpful IME. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:40:20 +0100, Tim wrote:
Could anyone tell me whether it's OK to take a Brompton (folded) on tube trains, including at peak times? Yes, it's officially allowed. However, when doing so I have had some stick from LU staff, including one guy at Paddington (Bakerloo) I think, who said on the PA system when I was quite legitimately boarding a train with a folded Brompton "Could the man who has just boarded the southbound service get out at the next station as bicycles are not permitted on the Bakerloo line". Needless to say, I didn't. Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are no rules (save common sense) about that. -- Tom Sutch |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:12:23 +0000, Tom Sutch wrote:
Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are no rules (save common sense) about that. What would they do with a person with a real bike? Aside from stopping at the gates (Most LU staff I've seen are too busy gossiping to notice), what would they do? As for luggage. Take a real bike, wrap a sheet round it and call it a suitcase, what's the difference? |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
"Tom Sutch" wrote in message news On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:40:20 +0100, Tim wrote: Could anyone tell me whether it's OK to take a Brompton (folded) on tube trains, including at peak times? Yes, it's officially allowed. However, when doing so I have had some stick from LU staff, including one guy at Paddington (Bakerloo) I think, who said on the PA system when I was quite legitimately boarding a train with a folded Brompton "Could the man who has just boarded the southbound service get out at the next station as bicycles are not permitted on the Bakerloo line". Needless to say, I didn't. Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are no rules (save common sense) about that. There are quite specific rules about luggage and what can be taken on the underground. Take a look at: http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/about/COC.pdf Section 11 You can also look at the Conditions of Carriage booklet issued to all staff and IIRC ,COC are also shown in the Fares and Tickets booklet. -- Kat in Downtown Toronto |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
"Paul Weaver" wrote in message news On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:12:23 +0000, Tom Sutch wrote: Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are no rules (save common sense) about that. What would they do with a person with a real bike? Aside from stopping at the gates (Most LU staff I've seen are too busy gossiping to notice), what would they do? The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave the train. -- Kat in Downtown Toronto |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
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writes On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:12:23 +0000, Tom Sutch wrote: Be confident, know that you are right, and if that doesn't work just put it in a bag before entering the network. It's then just luggage and there are no rules (save common sense) about that. As a Brompton in its cover isn't obviously a bike at all; it just looks like a large "something". I've never actually taken mine on a tube train (though I've always *meant* to) but I'd certainly cover it, if only to avoid getting such stick from passengers (and staff, apparently!). (That said, I did once get asked to leave a Midland Metro tram with mine but they relented when I started quoting the rules to them *and* produced a paper copy of an e-mail from customer services confirming that folding bikes were permitted. It was quite funny, actually!) What would they do with a person with a real bike? Aside from stopping at the gates (Most LU staff I've seen are too busy gossiping to notice), what would they do? As for luggage. Take a real bike, wrap a sheet round it and call it a suitcase, what's the difference? Ahem! Are you implying by any chance that a Brompton is not a "real" bike?! ;-) -- Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for London & the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
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writes The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave the train. And frequently do - In fact I did today :-) I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message ... In message , Kat writes The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave the train. And frequently do - In fact I did today :-) I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed. I once allowed someone down onto the platform with an unfolded Brompton because he assured me he could fold it before an incoming train had opened its doors; and he could too! They are quite amazing bikes but pretty pricey I think... Yebbut worth it. Resale value is high too. I had one (gave it to my nephew when my MS stopped me riding) and have recommended them to another poster on this thread... -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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Brompton Folding Bike on Tubes
In article , Helen Deborah Vecht
writes "Kat" typed "Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message ... In message , Kat writes The Train Operator would be well within his/her rights (outside the specified times and on wrong sections of the line) to ask you to leave the train. And frequently do - In fact I did today :-) I never do with a Brompton though as they are specifically allowed. I once allowed someone down onto the platform with an unfolded Brompton because he assured me he could fold it before an incoming train had opened its doors; and he could too! They are quite amazing bikes but pretty pricey I think... Yebbut worth it. I'll second that. It's better than some types of "proper" [1] bike. [1] Not my words! -- Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for London & the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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