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I don't care what anyone says, doctors note or not, there is no
way someone can be well enough to play squash but be unable to
push a few buttons on a train, or perform lesser duties for a
while if necessary.

The union want to watch themselves on this one unless they are
deliberately out to lose what little credibility they've got left
with the public.


I don't think anyone can really comment without knowing what's meant to
have been wrong with this person and what is supposed to help them get
better.

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On 7 Nov 2003 00:50:06 GMT, Robin May
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"I@n" -uk wrote the following in:


I don't care what anyone says, doctors note or not, there is no
way someone can be well enough to play squash but be unable to
push a few buttons on a train, or perform lesser duties for a
while if necessary.

The union want to watch themselves on this one unless they are
deliberately out to lose what little credibility they've got left
with the public.


I don't think anyone can really comment without knowing what's meant to
have been wrong with this person and what is supposed to help them get
better.


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ing%20Standard

quote:

"snip

"RMT union leaders justified the action of sacked driver Chris
Barrett, saying the squash was to help speed his recovery from an
ankle injury."

snip

He had been off sick with the injury for several months. When
confronted by the Evening Standard, he said: "I was not playing
squash. I was just exercising my ankle on a squash court."

snip"

Sorry but you don't book a squash court just to exercise and not play
squash!


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"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
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He had been off sick with the injury for several
months. When confronted by the Evening
Standard, he said: "I was not playing squash.
I was just exercising my ankle on a squash court."

snip"

Sorry but you don't book a squash court just to
exercise and not play squash!


I agree. He hasn't got a leg to stand on.

As for the union being concerned that they might lose credibility with the
public, I can't think of any reason for the union to care about that. After
all, it's only the station assistants who get spat at, not Bob Crowe.

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In article , John Rowland
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He hasn't got a leg to stand on.


LOL!!!!
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"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
As for the union being concerned that they might lose credibility with the
public, I can't think of any reason for the union to care about that. After
all, it's only the station assistants who get spat at, not Bob Crowe.



Given that apparently the H&C drivers voted 2 to 1 to strike perhaps its
them who should be spat at instead, or at the least a some choice bits of
verbal abuse directed in their general vacinity. Perhaps if some of these
militant dickheads had to suffer the consequences of holding London to ransom
they wouldn't do it quite so often. Bear in mind Bob Crowe can only get
away with what he does with the majority support of his members and they
seem to give it to him quite readily.

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Robin May wrote:
"I@n" -uk wrote the following in:


I don't care what anyone says, doctors note or not, there is no
way someone can be well enough to play squash but be unable to
push a few buttons on a train, or perform lesser duties for a
while if necessary.

The union want to watch themselves on this one unless they are
deliberately out to lose what little credibility they've got left
with the public.


I don't think anyone can really comment without knowing what's meant
to have been wrong with this person and what is supposed to help them
get better.


Yes, we can't take an informed view on the medical issue, but we *can*
comment on the union's decision to strike. They have accused LU of not
following the proper process, but they are guilty of that too. What do
they industrial tribunals are for? Or perhaps they recognise that their
case is so weak that it would get thrown out?
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Robin May writes:

I don't think anyone can really comment without knowing what's meant to
have been wrong with this person and what is supposed to help them get
better.


He had an ankle injury, it's been widely reported already. Squash is
not light exercise, escecially for ankles and knees. The guy was
taking advantage of the system and got caught. LUL followed normal
disciplinary procedure and the union has no case for a strike. If LUL
doesn't take legal action against the union for organising an illegal
strike, the passengers should.
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Snippo

I don't care what anyone says, doctors note or not, there is no
way someone can be well enough to play squash but be unable to
push a few buttons on a train, or perform lesser duties for a
while if necessary.


Snippo again


I don't think anyone can really comment without knowing what's meant
to have been wrong with this person and what is supposed to help them
get better.


Are we being told the full story here?
Apparently the guy was seen leaving a squash club - Am I missing something
or was he actually seen playing squash? Maybe it's another trial by
media as opposed to the system that uses the word justice - possibly
using the words "innocent until proven guilty/ otherwise".
If his actions were within the guidelines given to him by his doctor then he
should be O.K., if not then he should close the door behind him as he
leaves.
Admittedly I don't use LU in the same way that others do but I am left
wondering what some other readers of this NG would do if the finger was
pointing at them and they felt they had done nothing wrong (and no, I don't
belong to a union).
Maybe LU can pull it off and run the system with no union involvment
whatsoever.

(Maybe the disgruntled customers who think it's .OK. to spit at staff will
be surprised when the staff spit back.)

Maybe, maybe, ...

Have a nice day ...

Paul



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In article , Paul
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Admittedly I don't use LU in the same way that others do but I am left
wondering what some other readers of this NG would do if the finger was
pointing at them and they felt they had done nothing wrong (and no, I don't
belong to a union).


The public are fed up with the unions who think they can hold Londoners
to ransom over every little thing. Too many people skive off, managers
included.
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I don't think anyone can really comment without knowing what's meant to
have been wrong with this person and what is supposed to help them get
better.


Maybe if LU drivers weren't so aggroant and full of themselves they
wouldn't think they could go and play squash when they are suppose to
be injured and think no-one is going to say anything.
Its just another excuse to call a strike. Out of interest do the union
leaders calling the strike get paid while they are on strike? Do the
drivers get paid while on strike?
Only apparently during the recent Royal Mail wildcat strikes the union
leaders in the depots calling their men to go on strike were getting
paid whilist the poor sheep who followed the strike call didn't.
Just a thought.


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