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What does everyone think of this absolutely ludicrous suggestions?


The residents seem to think it's a good idea.

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What does everyone think of this absolutely ludicrous suggestions?


The residents seem to think it's a good idea.


The vast majority of everyone else doesn't. Next thing we'll have anyone
living on a main road (who probably chose to buy a house on that main road
in the first place) moaning and asking that we charge people to use the

main
roads. Oh, hold on a minute, that might actually be happening in some

form
or another.

I'd just like to see an idea for a ring road around the new zone.

Peter


Perhaps the current ring road will be "free" but venturing off it to either
side will be charged. Otherwise the obvious westward extension would be to
Earl's Court and the West Cross Route, with the Westway forming the northern
boundary and the embankment the southern. To the east I'm not sure - the
East Cross Route, the River Thames and the Bethnal Green Road or even
Whitechapel Road? I don't think there are any plans to extend the zone north
or southwards immediately - just eastwards and westwards.

Dave Arquati
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"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
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What does everyone think of this absolutely ludicrous suggestions?


The residents seem to think it's a good idea.


The vast majority of everyone else doesn't. Next thing we'll have anyone
living on a main road (who probably chose to buy a house on that main road
in the first place) moaning and asking that we charge people to use the

main
roads. Oh, hold on a minute, that might actually be happening in some

form
or another.

I'd just like to see an idea for a ring road around the new zone.


How about the north and south circular roads?


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How about the north and south circular roads?


M25?

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Dave wrote:
Cast_Iron writes

How about the north and south circular roads?



M25?


Coast?



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"Dave Arquati" wrote the following in:


I don't think there are any plans to extend the zone north or
southwards immediately - just eastwards and westwards.


I've looked around but I can't find any information about an extension
to the east. How far east are they planning to extend it?

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Ken wanted to extend it into Kensington & Chelsea and Tower
Hamlets - I'm not sure exactly how far into either. The limited
map on the BBC News site showed just the Kensington & Chelsea
extension since 52% of residents were in favour. It didn't seem to
extend as far as the logical boundary (the West Cross Route) but
instead seemed to run up Gloucester Road or some parallel route in
the south (Queens Gate, or maybe Exhibition Road/Sydney St etc?).

Only 33% of residents in Tower Hamlets were in favour of the
extension so the map didn't show the eastwards extension.


I think it's ridiculous to extend it into Tower Hamlets, the poorest
borough in London. There would be bound to be people who were outside
the congestion charging zone but whose local supermarket or school or
similar important service was inside it, and who'd be left with no
adequate substitute method of transport. And for people who really
don't have a lot of money, that would be very unfair.

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In article , Robin May
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I think it's ridiculous to extend it into Tower Hamlets, the poorest
borough in London. There would be bound to be people who were outside
the congestion charging zone but whose local supermarket or school or
similar important service was inside it, and who'd be left with no
adequate substitute method of transport. And for people who really
don't have a lot of money, that would be very unfair.


They might even be forced to sell their cars.

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congokid wrote:
In article , Robin May
writes

I think it's ridiculous to extend it into Tower Hamlets, the

poorest
borough in London. There would be bound to be people who were

outside
the congestion charging zone but whose local supermarket or school

or
similar important service was inside it, and who'd be left with no
adequate substitute method of transport. And for people who really
don't have a lot of money, that would be very unfair.


They might even be forced to sell their cars.


And what's the alternative? I had to go by bus to pick up my car
from being serviced a couple of weeks ago and waited an hour and a
quarter for a D7 - scheduled to run every 10-12 minutes between rush
hours. The journey from Westferry Road to Burdett Road, which takes
about 4 or 5 minutes driving door to door, took 1 hour 40 minutes!!

This wasn't an isolated incident - my wife often waits up to an hour
for this bus when visiting relatives (she doesn't drive and is too
scared of London drivers to learn). The amazing thing is that the D7
must be one of the shortest routes in London, running from Poplar to
Mile End round the Isle of Dogs where we live. It seems impossible
that such a short route should have such long delays.

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In article , Redonda wrote:

And what's the alternative? I had to go by bus to pick up my car
from being serviced a couple of weeks ago and waited an hour and a
quarter for a D7 - scheduled to run every 10-12 minutes between rush
hours.


That would indicate only one bus out of six was in service (6 x 12 = 72
= 1hr 12 min).

The journey from Westferry Road to Burdett Road, which takes
about 4 or 5 minutes driving door to door, took 1 hour 40 minutes!!


Does beg the question as to why you didn't walk it, or (depending
exactly where on Westferry Road you were waiting) catch a 277?
Were the D3s running as they should have been?

This wasn't an isolated incident - my wife often waits up to an hour
for this bus when visiting relatives (she doesn't drive and is too
scared of London drivers to learn). The amazing thing is that the D7
must be one of the shortest routes in London, running from Poplar to
Mile End round the Isle of Dogs where we live. It seems impossible
that such a short route should have such long delays.


I assume you've complained to the TfL/First with all the relevant
details/dates?

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