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On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:17:38 +0100, Josie
wrote: On 02/04/2010 12:13, wrote: I do have an unused (free) Oystercard& I'can't see why I'd ever bother to use it, since all my trips start from Thurrock, or Upminster,& a paper travelcard offers the same advantages to me as an Oyster. (Sarting from Upminster has cost benifents, I'm old enough to have an ENOC bus-pass& I purchase a senior railcard every year, so a weekday Zones 1-6 off-peak travel card costs me £5 at Upminster or £8.87 at Grays!). It's cheaper for me to by a day-return to Upminster than a travel card from Grays..... So it is, I hadn't realised that - on the other hand, it does restrict you to travel back via Upminster and not via Rainham, doesn't it? Since I'll not going back the same day that issue doesn't arise, so that's a useful tip to know. True, but if you use the 370 bus from Lakeside to get to Upminster for the cheapest possible travelcard, you can always return to Rainham & use the 372 back to Lakeside. Your 1-day travelcard is valid on both route all the way to Lakeside, which suprised me, 'cos you are definately outside the original zone boundaries there. I appreciate that I'm penny pinching here, but I'm old & poor........ As for bus travel into Grays from Lakeside bus station, during the working day there are many options. Ensignbus provide 3 bph on route 22, 1 bph on route 33, 2 bph on route 44, 2 bph on route 66,& 3 bph on both routes 73& 83. So 12 buses per hour, some via the more "scenic" routes.... Add to that First Essex provie 3 bph on route 100& 2 bph on route 200,& Arriva offer 1 bph on their route 5, (to Southend...) I guess that 18 bph is quite reasonable, but I'm sure that the fares all differ& a few of the trips take a little too long 'cos they do follow routes more suitable for local passengers. I'm actually one of those local passengers going to somewhere on one of the scenic routes, so that cuts my options down a bit, but I've got one of the very good timetable booklets recommended elsewhere in this thread! Ensign continues to surprise me too, it's obviously a commercial operation, & I think with very little local authority support, but it's providing services in the evenings & weekends that Arriva gave up on. I suppose that since they are bus dealers, they do have access to decent quility 2/hand vehicles as well as their new d/deckers, & that must help, but the crews are good , happy to wait for passengers at stops & polite with it. Very un 21st century! If they could find an economical way to do away with cash fares, they could even save a little time too. DC |
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