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On Thu, 20 May 2010 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Sunil"
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Worcester Park also has the white on black signage, but lacking zone
info (the the others like this being Hampton Court and New Malden).

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...ew_signage.JPG


Looks fairly professional.

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On May 21, 3:16*pm, Neil Williams
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On Thu, 20 May 2010 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Sunil"
wrote:

Worcester Park also has the white on black signage, but lacking zone
info (the the others like this being Hampton Court and New Malden).


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...ew_signage.JPG


Looks fairly professional.


Wonder if the colour scheme - specifically the inverted white on navy
blue (for that's what it is right - it's not black I don't think) is
intended to discourage casual graffitists and taggers, what with the
lack of empty white space? Or maybe it just provides the best
contrast.

What's the font? It looks like the SWT house font to me, which is why
I wonder whether this is the embodiment of a new national standard...
Or maybe the standard is rather loose, merely specifying white on navy
blue text, but the font is of the TOCs choosing.

Looking back at the Surbiton examples in the first post of this
thread, it is indeed the same font - and it's not the classic (BR)
Rail Alphabet font either.
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What's the font? It looks like the SWT house font to me,


Which I think is plain old Arial Bold, although not a bad choice because
it is a font recommended for clarity, particularly for people with
visual impairments.

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On 21 May, 00:52, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:
On 20 May, 18:57, MIG wrote:





On 20 May, 14:43, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:


On 19 May, 21:14, MIG wrote:


On 16 May, 23:07, "Paul Scott" wrote:


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On 14/05/2010 16:36, Theo Markettos wrote:
Dr. *wrote:
In recent months, South West Trains have changed a lot of signage on
the platforms at their stations in the Oystercard Area (though not all
of them). Noticed new signs (so far) at Queenstown Road, Vauxhall,
Earlsfield, Raynes Park, New Malden, Norbiton, Twickenham, Surbiton
and Feltham. But I have yet to check out the Hounslow loop, Hampton/
Fulwell, Thames Ditton and the Chessington and Ewell West branches in
recent months though.
Yes, I noticed that. *When viewed from a distance it's easy to mistake
them
for platform numbers. *I suppose regular users will get used to them.


Theo


They are rolling out the new white-on-blue style across their whole
network, not just in the zones. Aldershot has them as well (without Fare
zone label obviously).


White on navy blue is supposedly going to be being rolled out nationally,
not just on SWT. It was one of the decisions following the stations report
prepared for the last Transport Secretary, the idea being that signage will
no longer be changed with franchise renewals.


Paul


Due to this discussion I've now noticed a new style of external
station sign, which incorporates a BR arrows of indecision in white on
red and, in a panel at the bottom, the station name in white on
black*.


*or very dark blue or charcoal or whatever.


I know the signage is London Overground, but the National Rail like
this one at Penge West?http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...ge_West_stn_en...


No; the one I noticed recently was more like the white on red BR sign
that can also be seen in the picture, but with a white on black
station name below the red panel. *So the symbol is vertically above
the name, and bigger than the name.


I'll see if I can get a snap of one somewhere.- Hide quoted text -


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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...tn_east_entran...
You mean just like the above but the lettering colours reversed?-


Here's what I mean. Pardon the crappy picture. I couldn't get the
Thing to work, and then as I was giving up the shutter went off.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fenny.jpg
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On May 21, 8:40*pm, MIG wrote:

On 21 May, 00:52, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

On 20 May, 18:57, MIG wrote:


On 20 May, 14:43, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:


On 19 May, 21:14, MIG wrote:


Due to this discussion I've now noticed a new style of external
station sign, which incorporates a BR arrows of indecision in white on
red and, in a panel at the bottom, the station name in white on
black*.


*or very dark blue or charcoal or whatever.


I know the signage is London Overground, but the National Rail like
this one at Penge West?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...nce_2010. JPG


No; the one I noticed recently was more like the white on red BR sign
that can also be seen in the picture, but with a white on black
station name below the red panel. *So the symbol is vertically above
the name, and bigger than the name.


I'll see if I can get a snap of one somewhere.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._entrance..JPG
You mean just like the above but the lettering colours reversed?-


Here's what I mean. *Pardon the crappy picture. *I couldn't get the
Thing to work, and then as I was giving up the shutter went off.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fenny.jpg


That looks very much like the London Midland house font to me -
whether the black backing is explained by that being the LM house
style too (see their printed publicity or website for example), or
because there's some edict that station nameboards and totems won't
carry TOC logos any more I dunno. But if there is such an edict then
it' would appear to be somewhat loose.


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On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:40:50 -0700 (PDT), MIG
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Here's what I mean. Pardon the crappy picture. I couldn't get the
Thing to work, and then as I was giving up the shutter went off.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fenny.jpg


That's the white-on-black London Midland signage.

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On 23 May, 20:03, Neil Williams
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:40:50 -0700 (PDT), MIG

wrote:
Here's what I mean. *Pardon the crappy picture. *I couldn't get the
Thing to work, and then as I was giving up the shutter went off.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fenny.jpg


That's the white-on-black London Midland signage.


Yes; that's what I would have assumed if it hadn't been for the
discussion. But that particular style/combination is not something I
have noticed till recently, even on LM. Maybe I just haven't noticed.
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On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:22:05 -0700 (PDT), MIG
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Yes; that's what I would have assumed if it hadn't been for the
discussion. But that particular style/combination is not something I
have noticed till recently, even on LM. Maybe I just haven't noticed.


You probably haven't . All LM stations that have had the new
signage are in that style (that might well now be all LM stations full
stop - even Polesworth has had it!)

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