In article ,
(Paul Terry) wrote:

In message
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"John @ home" writes

The House of Commons Library published a paper last month describing
bus concessionary fare schemes in the UK.

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpap.../briefings/snb
t-01499.pdf

Yesterday, they published another paper describing a proposal in 2002
to limit bus concessions for older and disabled people to a half fare.
I wonder why?

http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpap.../briefings/snb
t-02009.pdf

The coalition government wants to review the financing of the
scheme, while at the same time being committed to free travel for
the people concerned.

AIUI, from comments in u.t.l. by Colin Rosentheil and others, the
costs don't fall equitably on local authorities at present - in
particular, those that are popular holiday resorts or tourist
destinations end up paying for a lot of "out of area" visitors.

It appears that the funding will shift from District to County councils in
2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still needs a grant formula
which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 18:29:46
on Sat, 3 Jul 2010, remarked:
It appears that the funding will shift from District to County councils in
2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still needs a grant formula
which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

It's not going to help somewhere like Peterborough[1], which would
presumably have the same problem as Cambridge does now.

[1] Which as we all know is a unitary County.
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Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
18:29:46 on Sat, 3 Jul 2010, remarked:
It appears that the funding will shift from District to County councils
in 2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still needs a grant
formula which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

It's not going to help somewhere like Peterborough[1], which would
presumably have the same problem as Cambridge does now.

[1] Which as we all know is a unitary County.

How short of its concessionary fares spend is the grant it receives? Not
over £1 million as in Cambridge, I bet.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote

(Roland Perry) wrote:

18:29 on Sat, 3 Jul 2010, remarked:
It appears that the funding will shift from District to County
councils
in 2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still needs a grant

formula which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

It's not going to help somewhere like Peterborough[1], which would
presumably have the same problem as Cambridge does now.

[1] Which as we all know is a unitary County.

How short of its concessionary fares spend is the grant it receives?
Not
over £1 million as in Cambridge, I bet.

Since most journeys are return, the outward journey will be charged to
a district outside Cambridge and an equal amount for the return leg
charged to Cambridge.

Same for Peterborough I would have thought.

--
Mike D

In article 01cb1bbb$4b96cf00$LocalHost@default, (Michael
R N Dolbear) wrote:

wrote

(Roland Perry) wrote:

18:29 on Sat, 3 Jul 2010, remarked:
It appears that the funding will shift from District to County
councils in 2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still
needs a grant

formula which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

It's not going to help somewhere like Peterborough[1], which would
presumably have the same problem as Cambridge does now.

[1] Which as we all know is a unitary County.

How short of its concessionary fares spend is the grant it receives?
Not over £1 million as in Cambridge, I bet.

Since most journeys are return, the outward journey will be charged to
a district outside Cambridge and an equal amount for the return leg
charged to Cambridge.

Same for Peterborough I would have thought.

Only where boundaries are crossed, I agree. But that wasn't my question
anyway.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 10:20:12
on Sun, 4 Jul 2010, remarked:
It appears that the funding will shift from District to County councils
in 2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still needs a grant
formula which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

It's not going to help somewhere like Peterborough[1], which would
presumably have the same problem as Cambridge does now.

[1] Which as we all know is a unitary County.

How short of its concessionary fares spend is the grant it receives? Not
over £1 million as in Cambridge, I bet.

Peterborough is bigger, so maybe there are even more people travelling
in to do their shopping. On the other hand maybe Peterborough county
includes most of its suburbs, in a way that Cambridge doesn't. Your
problem is presumably having so much residential so close, that's
actually in Scambs.
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Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
10:20:12 on Sun, 4 Jul 2010, remarked:
It appears that the funding will shift from District to County
councils in 2011. That will smooth things out a bit but still needs
a grant formula which relates more closely to actual expenditure.

It's not going to help somewhere like Peterborough[1], which would
presumably have the same problem as Cambridge does now.

[1] Which as we all know is a unitary County.

How short of its concessionary fares spend is the grant it receives?
Not over £1 million as in Cambridge, I bet.

Peterborough is bigger, so maybe there are even more people
travelling in to do their shopping. On the other hand maybe
Peterborough county includes most of its suburbs, in a way that
Cambridge doesn't. Your problem is presumably having so much
residential so close, that's actually in Scambs.

How many million tourists does Peterborough get each year? Get real!

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 05:46:42
on Mon, 5 Jul 2010, remarked:

How many million tourists does Peterborough get each year? Get real!

How many tourists arrive in Cambridge by twirly-pass?

And when I was last in Cambridge it was difficult to spot many tourists
over the age of 25, irrespective of how they'd arrived.
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Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
05:46:42 on Mon, 5 Jul 2010, remarked:

How many million tourists does Peterborough get each year? Get real!

How many tourists arrive in Cambridge by twirly-pass?

They use them when they are here!

And when I was last in Cambridge it was difficult to spot many
tourists over the age of 25, irrespective of how they'd arrived.

Your blinkers are showing.

Anyway, you still haven't said how many tourists there are in Peterborough.

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Colin Rosenstiel