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John Levine writes:

I usually have a rule that if I can pay by cash for smaller purchases
then I do that.


Why? If you get points for every purchase, why not charge everything
you can? That's what I do.


Because I like my privacy. Marketers LOVE people who leave big wide trails.

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David Lesher writes:
I usually have a rule that if I can pay by cash for smaller purchases
then I do that.


Why? If you get points for every purchase, why not charge everything
you can? That's what I do.


Because I like my privacy. Marketers LOVE people who leave big wide trails.


Not to mention that using cash makes spending money somewhat more
visceral, which I kinda like... keeps spending down a bit maybe.

I find the U.S. credit/debit-card obsession just sort of weird...

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Not to mention that using cash makes spending money somewhat more
visceral, which I kinda like... keeps spending down a bit maybe.

I find the U.S. credit/debit-card obsession just sort of weird...


Other than a few toonies and loonies (Google if you don't know what they
are) in the glove compartment for parking meters and they are not really
required as most meters take credit cards, I never carry cash.

My newest debit card, arrived yesterday, lets me use it like a credit card
for on-line purchases and like a credit card when travelling outside Canada,
although it still debits my bank account.


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"Roger Traviss" writes:
Not to mention that using cash makes spending money somewhat more
visceral, which I kinda like... keeps spending down a bit maybe.

I find the U.S. credit/debit-card obsession just sort of weird...


Other than a few toonies and loonies (Google if you don't know what they
are) in the glove compartment for parking meters and they are not really
required as most meters take credit cards, I never carry cash.


Wacky!

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:20:56 +0900
Miles Bader wrote:
"Roger Traviss" writes:
Not to mention that using cash makes spending money somewhat more
visceral, which I kinda like... keeps spending down a bit maybe.

I find the U.S. credit/debit-card obsession just sort of weird...


Other than a few toonies and loonies (Google if you don't know what they
are) in the glove compartment for parking meters and they are not really
required as most meters take credit cards, I never carry cash.


Wacky!


He must be one of those bloody annoying people who insist on paying for
a 2.50 sandwich with a credit card and causing a huge queue of ****ed off
hungry customers behind him.

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:13:13 -0700
Robert Neville wrote:
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He must be one of those bloody annoying people who insist on paying for
a 2.50 sandwich with a credit card and causing a huge queue of ****ed off
hungry customers behind him.


That may have been true 10 years ago. Current terminals handle credit card
transactions far faster than cash and in most cases, don't even require a
signature if the value is under a certain threshold.


Hand cash over - walk out. If you can do that faster with a credit
card then I'd be interesting in hearing your technique.

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Robert Neville wrote:
That may have been true 10 years ago. Current terminals handle credit card
transactions far faster than cash and in most cases, don't even require a
signature if the value is under a certain threshold.


Depends on the terminal.

I remember the first time I used an always-online terminal in a fast
food place. I couldn't believe it when I swiped the card and the
screen immediately said, "Thank you, your transaction is complete."

But the CVS pharmacy self-checkout machines are very slow to process a
credit card, usually about 15 seconds. And half the time something
goes wrong, and it makes you swipe again.

Getting back to rail, a certain manufacturer's ticket machines which
have been appearing around the U.S. (and UK, from what I hear) are
terrible at reading magstripes. With some machines, you're lucky if
it reads the stripe in the 3 chances it gives you before it cancels
the whole transaction.

Jimmy


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