On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:46:02 +0000
David Cantrell wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:04:41AM +0000, Roland Perry wrote:

It depends how much use you get out of the legacy
infrastructure, for a start.

I somehow doubt we're going to get billions of pounds worth of use out
of a swimming pool, running track, and a handful of other things for
even less popular sports.

But don't forget the wonders its don't for Phoney Bliars ego. Thats priceless.

B2003

On 19/03/2012 14:41, David Cantrell wrote:

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:06:33AM +0000, Robin9 wrote:

[Olympics]
Obviously I hope that all goes well

Why?

For the amount of my money that's being spent on it, I expect to get a
little entertainment. Given that they're unlikely to do the hundred
metre dash in gigantic clown shoes, the only hope we have is that it's a
gigantic cluster****.

--
David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness

Re the sig - no ****, Mr Cantrell! Bah humbug etc...

In message , at 14:46:02
on Mon, 19 Mar 2012, David Cantrell remarked:
It depends how much use you get out of the legacy
infrastructure, for a start.

I somehow doubt we're going to get billions of pounds worth of use out
of a swimming pool, running track, and a handful of other things for
even less popular sports.

That's the Olympic Park, most of the infrastructure I refer to is
elsewhere, in the transport, local regeneration and so on.
--
Roland Perry

What local regeneration?

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:28:54PM +0000, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:46:02
on Mon, 19 Mar 2012, David Cantrell remarked:
It depends how much use you get out of the legacy
infrastructure, for a start.
I somehow doubt we're going to get billions of pounds worth of use out
of a swimming pool, running track, and a handful of other things for
even less popular sports.
That's the Olympic Park, most of the infrastructure I refer to is
elsewhere, in the transport, local regeneration and so on.

What transport? There's no new stations. What regeneration? Westfield
would have been built anyway according to the developers, and anything
else might just about make up for all the business that were knocked
down to make way for the gigantic white elephant.

--
David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive

Just because it is possible to do this sort of thing
in the English language doesn't mean it should be done

On 20/03/2012 12:20, David Cantrell wrote:

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:28:54PM +0000, Roland Perry wrote:
[...]
That's the Olympic Park, most of the infrastructure I refer to is
elsewhere, in the transport, local regeneration and so on.

What transport? There's no new stations. What regeneration? Westfield
would have been built anyway according to the developers, and anything
else might just about make up for all the business that were knocked
down to make way for the gigantic white elephant.

Significant ODA transport funding has for instance gone towards the
North London Line upgrade (both new trains and infrastructure), the DLR
three car project (both rolling stock and infrastructure), and the new
DLR route from Stratford International to Canning Town (which includes
new stations).

Some more info in this document:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/corporate/tfl-games-plans-december-2007.pdf

In message , at 12:20:33
on Tue, 20 Mar 2012, David Cantrell remarked:
It depends how much use you get out of the legacy
infrastructure, for a start.
I somehow doubt we're going to get billions of pounds worth of use out
of a swimming pool, running track, and a handful of other things for
even less popular sports.
That's the Olympic Park, most of the infrastructure I refer to is
elsewhere, in the transport, local regeneration and so on.

What regeneration?

In Stratford and Lee Valley. But there are many other Olympic venues
too, and don't be so naive to believe they'd all have been spruced up
anyway.

--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:55:46 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
What transport? There's no new stations. What regeneration? Westfield
would have been built anyway according to the developers, and anything
else might just about make up for all the business that were knocked
down to make way for the gigantic white elephant.

Significant ODA transport funding has for instance gone towards the
North London Line upgrade (both new trains and infrastructure), the DLR

That had nothing to do with the olympics.

three car project (both rolling stock and infrastructure), and the new
DLR route from Stratford International to Canning Town (which includes
new stations).

You mean the DLR project that spent millions rebuilding a heavy railway
into a light railway over the exact same route for no logical reason?

B2003

On 20/03/2012 13:56, d wrote:

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:55:46 +0000
Mizter wrote:
What transport? There's no new stations. What regeneration? Westfield
would have been built anyway according to the developers, and anything
else might just about make up for all the business that were knocked
down to make way for the gigantic white elephant.

Significant ODA transport funding has for instance gone towards the
North London Line upgrade (both new trains and infrastructure), the DLR

That had nothing to do with the olympics.

The NLL serves Stratford and Hackney Wick. Like it or not, the NLL
upgrade was part funded by the ODA. See the TfL document I posted a link to.


three car project (both rolling stock and infrastructure), and the new
DLR route from Stratford International to Canning Town (which includes
new stations).

You mean the DLR project that spent millions rebuilding a heavy railway
into a light railway over the exact same route for no logical reason?

Apart from it providing a far better local service (more local stations,
more frequent trains) which thus far seems to have been quite a success
in terms of passenger numbers.

This press release is hardly up to date, but it's indicative:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/archive/21104.aspx

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:27:11 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
That had nothing to do with the olympics.

The NLL serves Stratford and Hackney Wick. Like it or not, the NLL
upgrade was part funded by the ODA. See the TfL document I posted a link to.

Just convenient accounting. Silverlink was a joke, the NLL was falling to bits
and so upgrading was inevitable. It would have happened anyway. Whether
taxpayers money comes from the ODA or direct from the DoT is irrelevant.

You mean the DLR project that spent millions rebuilding a heavy railway
into a light railway over the exact same route for no logical reason?

Apart from it providing a far better local service (more local stations,
more frequent trains) which thus far seems to have been quite a success
in terms of passenger numbers.

That could easily have been achieved with the NLL and the new trains at
much lower cost. How much would it have cost to install a reversing siding
at statford if that section of the line was such a commuter hub? (And I
don't believe it is).

B2003