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Are you trolling? Are you seriously suggesting that having to find a website
or app then starting it up and trying to view it on a tinky winky 4 inch
screen is easier than just looking at a huge metre square map on a wall?
I don't want to be in the position of having to purchase some overpriced
iToy that I don't need just to be able to get basic information in a city.


Perhaps borrow one for a bit. I said a while ago that journey planners
were the best thing that ever happened to public transport. Add a
smartphone, and it truly is a "killer app". Try it before you reject the
idea totally.

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On 20 Aug 2012 09:59:13 GMT
Neil Williams wrote:
Perhaps borrow one for a bit. I said a while ago that journey planners
were the best thing that ever happened to public transport. Add a
smartphone, and it truly is a "killer app". Try it before you reject the
idea totally.


I'm not buying a smartphone just to read a map. Navigating a metro system
is hardly rocket science. A map on a wall is all anyone needs unless they're
terminally stupid and need to be spoon fed even the simplest information.

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On Aug 20, 11:22*am, wrote:
I'm not buying a smartphone just to read a map. Navigating a metro system
is hardly rocket science. A map on a wall is all anyone needs unless they're
terminally stupid and need to be spoon fed even the simplest information.


Boltar

I don't always agree with your sentiments, but in this case I think
you are right. Relatively speaking, it is cheap and easy for maps to
be posted up on the walls in various strategic places (platforms, for
example), where a quick glance "I need to go down there a bit, then
over there a bit" tells the traveller enough.

By all means have a technological solution *as well*, but not
*instead*.

PhilD

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On 20/08/2012 20:14, PhilD wrote:
On Aug 20, 11:22 am, wrote:
I'm not buying a smartphone just to read a map. Navigating a metro system
is hardly rocket science. A map on a wall is all anyone needs unless they're
terminally stupid and need to be spoon fed even the simplest information.


Boltar

I don't always agree with your sentiments, but in this case I think
you are right. Relatively speaking, it is cheap and easy for maps to
be posted up on the walls in various strategic places (platforms, for
example), where a quick glance "I need to go down there a bit, then
over there a bit" tells the traveller enough.


That works if there is a turn-up and go service everywhere, or the map
shows details like "runs every half hour", "match days only", "no
service on St Fred's day", etc, and the passenger has a way of finding
out when those things are.

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 07:57:59 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
I don't always agree with your sentiments, but in this case I think
you are right. Relatively speaking, it is cheap and easy for maps to
be posted up on the walls in various strategic places (platforms, for
example), where a quick glance "I need to go down there a bit, then
over there a bit" tells the traveller enough.


That works if there is a turn-up and go service everywhere, or the map


Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?

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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.

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On 21 Aug 2012 09:18:26 GMT
Neil Williams wrote:
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.


Are you suggesting you have to book in advance to use these systems on a
sunday? Excuse me if I'm not convinced.

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On 21/08/2012 10:18, Neil Williams wrote:
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.


You might have had a fair wait at Shoreditch if you weren't careful.

I'm pretty certain events-only stations exist at places like sports
stadia. I think Ulm has a tram branch to a conference centre. Depending
what counts as a metro, I think there are S-bahn branded rail services
which are hourly, perhaps even every 2 h, which might catch out someone
who is used to a Berlin-style operation. Southern "metro" services to
Epsom Downs are hourly, although I'm not sure I have ever heard anyone
outside Southern use the term.

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On 21/08/2012 10:18, Neil Williams wrote:
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.

Neil

Glasgow Subway on a Sunday?
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In message , at 08:50:24 on Tue, 21 Aug
2012, d remarked:

That works if there is a turn-up and go service everywhere, or the map


Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


When does that kick in... 4tph? I'm sure we can find a 3tph Metro.
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