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I'd be surprised if there was any. There's none out here in Aylesbury.


There is now! There's loads. I was off today and there was some just

before
11am and some when I got up.


Nothing on the west side of town in the morning - I was out in the garden!
Nothing until the blizzard at 16:40 (apart from a light dusting at 00:30
this morning which had gone by dawn).



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I can not comment about this particular experience but if a member of staff
asks you to leave the station then you should without fuss. Any questions
you have should be addressed when you are outside. The fact that they have
to threaten police action is sad. These people who refuse to leave
compromise the safety of the staff and other customers.

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Faringdon station closed tonight at around 6:30 due to 'safety' reasons,
it was hard to hear this over the speakers but it seems this was because
there was some snow on the end of the platforms, trains were non-
stopping,

Very rude station staff trying to get people,of the platforms including
threating to call the police to remove disgruntled passengers and
physically pushing people (who as usual were give no proper explanation)

Dave...

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Hi,

I'm in North London and we do not seem to have much snow here,
apparently there are problems on the central and metropolitan lines.
So whats the snow like were these trains are going?


A couple of flakes probably blew across the line which this being
britain of course means that trains immediately break down, points
freeze, rails break and so forth. God help this country if we ever
really get severe weather like they have in scandinavia or central &
eastern europe. God knows what we'd do.

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Faringdon station closed tonight at around 6:30 due to 'safety'
reasons, it was hard to hear this over the speakers but it seems
this was because there was some snow on the end of the platforms,
trains were non- stopping,

Very rude station staff trying to get people,of the platforms
including threating to call the police to remove disgruntled
passengers and physically pushing people (who as usual were give no
proper explanation)


I can not comment about this particular experience but if a member of
staff asks you to leave the station then you should without fuss. Any
questions you have should be addressed when you are outside.


I don't think you're living in the real world. Consider this: I'm waiting
on Farringdon station for a Met train home after a hard day at work. It's
cold and snowing. I have a valid ticket which has opened the barrier to
let me get to the platform. Suddenly station staff tell me to leave the
station without a proper explanation. Are you seriously suggesting I
should meekly trudge along the platform, up the stairs and into the street
before questioning this?

If indeed it was "some snow on the end of the platform" that caused the
station to be closed, the travelling public deserves an explanation of why
it was too dangerous at Farringdon, but OK at virtually all suburban
above-ground platforms, which of course have far more of their platforms
uncovered than Farringdon.

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I have a valid ticket which has opened the barrier to
let me get to the platform. Suddenly station staff tell me to leave the
station without a proper explanation. Are you seriously suggesting I
should meekly trudge along the platform, up the stairs and into the
street
before questioning this?


The passengers at Kings Cross probably thought the same when told to
evacuate the station when it was on fire. "Can't see any problem, I'll
stay here"


Richard J.
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I am not saying you do not need an explanation. What I am saying is that if
staff are to effectively evacuate a station then having to justify this with
every individual before they leave would take a very long time and therefore
increasing the risk of injury.
What should happen in a perfect situation is audible announcements should be
made letting people know why the station is being closed and member of staff
should be at every exit to answer individual questions.

I am sure Farringdon suffers like all stations by having there barest
minimum of staff. So would not be able to achieve the perfect evacuation.

You mention that people were threatened with police action which would
indicate to me they were being very unreasonable. Personally I would be
polite for a couple of requests then mention the police and leave these
people where they stand. I have no interest in risking my own life.

Finally I think I do live in the real world. Maybe if you started work at
05.00 in the morning. Having to walk there because there is no transport
available at that time. Spending your whole day standing in the cold and
being verbally abused for situations you have no control over. Then when you
try and consider the safety of your fellow man being given even more abuse.
Maybe then you might be more sympathetic towards underground staff and vent
your anger at the ones who hold the purse strings and make policy. Obviously
you wont see them anywhere near the chaos they have suits and live in
offices and seldom ever let people know who they are.

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Anon wrote: [top posting corrected]
"Dave Bisping" wrote in message
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Faringdon station closed tonight at around 6:30 due to 'safety'
reasons, it was hard to hear this over the speakers but it seems
this was because there was some snow on the end of the platforms,
trains were non- stopping,

Very rude station staff trying to get people,of the platforms
including threating to call the police to remove disgruntled
passengers and physically pushing people (who as usual were give no
proper explanation)


I can not comment about this particular experience but if a member of
staff asks you to leave the station then you should without fuss. Any
questions you have should be addressed when you are outside.


I don't think you're living in the real world. Consider this: I'm

waiting
on Farringdon station for a Met train home after a hard day at work. It's
cold and snowing. I have a valid ticket which has opened the barrier to
let me get to the platform. Suddenly station staff tell me to leave the
station without a proper explanation. Are you seriously suggesting I
should meekly trudge along the platform, up the stairs and into the street
before questioning this?

If indeed it was "some snow on the end of the platform" that caused the
station to be closed, the travelling public deserves an explanation of why
it was too dangerous at Farringdon, but OK at virtually all suburban
above-ground platforms, which of course have far more of their platforms
uncovered than Farringdon.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)



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In article ,

The passengers at Kings Cross probably thought the same when told to
evacuate the station when it was on fire. "Can't see any problem,
I'll stay here"


Given the deaths occurred on the escalator and in the ticket hall, the
platforms would seem to have been the safest place to be.

John

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In article , Richard J.
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I don't think you're living in the real world. Consider this: I'm waiting
on Farringdon station for a Met train home after a hard day at work. It's
cold and snowing. I have a valid ticket which has opened the barrier to
let me get to the platform. Suddenly station staff tell me to leave the
station without a proper explanation. Are you seriously suggesting I
should meekly trudge along the platform, up the stairs and into the street
before questioning this?


Yes. You're on private property. If you are asked to leave then you
leave.
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"Anon" wrote in message ...
I can not comment about this particular experience but if a member of staff
asks you to leave the station then you should without fuss. Any questions
you have should be addressed when you are outside. The fact that they have
to threaten police action is sad. These people who refuse to leave
compromise the safety of the staff and other customers.


********. Lets face it , LU staff always take the easy way out. Instead of
getting off their backsides and sweeping the platform its easier for them to
just boot everyone out and go have a cup of tea.

B2003


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