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Tunbridge Wells
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:17:23 -0500, Recliner
wrote: Paul Corfield wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:56:16 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 06:17:35 on Sun, 3 Aug 2014, Charles Ellson remarked: Can you use your Oyster card for Pay-as-You-Go from London Bridge to Tundbridge Wells? Definitely not. Not according to anything I can see on the NR website (assuming it is up to date). There doesn't seem to be anything definite announced since e.g. "A spokesman for Southeastern confirmed: ?We?re in discussions with Transport for London to extend Oyster into Dartford." [Kent Online 21 Feb 2014] Tunbridge Wells being even further away from Greater London and AFAIAA with a lower thicko count (Dartford seems to have a particular problem with people unaware that Oyster has geographical limits) might not be so far up the list for providing Oyster. The problem with extending Oyster is that it has a very finite number of price-zones and it's possible these were exhausted when extended to Shenfield. I asked TfL's ticketing people, via a Twitter "chat" session, if they would technically cope with the indicated TSGN franchise plans to extent Oyster beyond the zones. They said they could. Unfortunately I can't send you a technical specification to prove this so I imagine my statement will go on your vapourware list of probably untrue nonsense ;-) This suggests there is some system capacity left but I imagine there may also be assumptions about pricing and keeping stations priced on a consistent basis outside the zones. If Oyster PAYG is to extend to Dartford that will solve a great many problems although it might reduce South Eastern's penalty fare income. It's hardly likely to be a huge problem given Oyster based Freedom Passes *are* valid to Dartford so there must be some ticketing logic in the system that allows those cards to be read (I assuming the gates at Dartford *do* read them - happy to be corrected if actual practice is different). I don't think the gates at Dartford do read Freedom passes. After the gate wouldn't read it, I had to show mine to a person, who let me through. Roughly comparable to 65+ bus passes used away from their home area ? I see that 60+ Oyster cards are also valid to/via Dartford. |