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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...ng-development Extract: A proposed major infrastructure project, Crossrail 2, moved a step forward today (24 March 2015) as the government published updated plans to protect land for its route from conflicting development. Crossrail 2 is a high frequency, high capacity rail line that would run between south west and north east London. No decision has yet been taken on its construction, and the Department for Transport is working with Transport for London (TfL) and Network Rail on a business case, after the Chancellor made £2 million available to support this work. .... Michele Dix, TfL’s Managing Director for Crossrail 2, said: "The confirmed safeguarding marks a vital step forward in progressing Crossrail 2 which is significant in providing more rail capacity to support growth in London for the future, in particular up to 200,000 new homes. We’ll continue developing the scheme reflecting comments received to date with a public consultation later this year. We are working hard to deliver Crossrail 2 by 2030." The updated safeguarded route published today, following a 10-week consultation, extends from Wimbledon in the south-west to Tottenham Hale and New Southgate in the north-east. It will replace the previous directions and will ensure new development does not affect the ability to build and operate Crossrail 2 in the future. Under the new Crossrail 2 safeguarding directions, relevant planning applications in safeguarded areas will be referred to TfL for advice. If development interferes with Crossrail 2, either a compromise will be reached or the development will not be allowed. TfL currently has no plans to compulsorily purchase properties along the route. Any property or land owner who considers they may be eligible for statutory blight should seek advice or contact TfL. The government and TfL have made modifications to the proposed safeguarded route at Wandsworth Common, Chelsea, Soho Square and Angel to allay public concerns, after carefully considering the consultation responses. The updated direction will come into effect from today. Crossrail 2’s route now passes through the City of Westminster, the London Boroughs of Barnet, Camden, Enfield, Hackney, Haringey, Islington, Merton, Wandsworth, and the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea. Among the most significant changes to the previous safeguarded route a - a new tunnel entrance south of Tottenham Hale station to take the line from above to below ground - a proposed extension to New Southgate - a station connecting to both Euston and King’s Cross, instead of at King’s Cross only - an altered route running from Angel to Tottenham Hale and Seven Sisters via Dalston Junction, instead of via Hackney Central to Epping - an altered route running from Victoria to Angel via Tottenham Court Road instead of via Piccadilly Circus - an altered route running from Wimbledon to Chelsea via Clapham Junction and Tooting Broadway, instead of via Putney Safeguarding is a planning process that enables the government to protect land needed for long term infrastructure projects from developments that would prevent them being built or make them more expensive. Safeguarding does not necessarily prevent developments taking place; it ensures that when they take place the design can accommodate nationally important infrastructure. |
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-septem ber.org, at 15:54:07 on Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Recliner remarked: We are working hard to deliver Crossrail 2 by 2030." So given the track record (groan) of Thameslink 2000, we can expect it to open in about 2048? -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message -septem ber.org, at 15:54:07 on Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Recliner remarked: We are working hard to deliver Crossrail 2 by 2030." So given the track record (groan) of Thameslink 2000, we can expect it to open in about 2048? Yes, if they're still moving the route around, completion by 2030 seems highly unlikely. Your guess seems as good as any. |
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So given the track record (groan) of Thameslink 2000, we can expect it to
open in about 2048? Yes, if they're still moving the route around, completion by 2030 seems highly unlikely. Your guess seems as good as any. ====================================== To quote from my rule book. "Expect movement on any track, in any direction at anytime." Cheers Roger T. |
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On 2015\03\24 21:04, Roger T. wrote:
So given the track record (groan) of Thameslink 2000, we can expect it to open in about 2048? Yes, if they're still moving the route around, completion by 2030 seems highly unlikely. Your guess seems as good as any. ====================================== To quote from my rule book. "Expect movement on any track, in any direction at anytime." Am I the only one who think the Seven Sisters - Alexandra Palace branch is like an April Fool joke? I might be able to see some sense in it if they could reopen the abandoned alignment and extend it to Stratford over existing lines, but as a new build tunnel linking to a line almost exactly at right angles to it, nuts! What's going on there? Has some survey determined that there is an unusually high proportion of transvestite dwarves in that area, a demographic hitherto neglected by transport planners? |
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On 24/03/2015 21:46, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\03\24 21:04, Roger T. wrote: So given the track record (groan) of Thameslink 2000, we can expect it to open in about 2048? Yes, if they're still moving the route around, completion by 2030 seems highly unlikely. Your guess seems as good as any. ====================================== To quote from my rule book. "Expect movement on any track, in any direction at anytime." Am I the only one who think the Seven Sisters - Alexandra Palace branch is like an April Fool joke? I might be able to see some sense in it if they could reopen the abandoned alignment and extend it to Stratford over existing lines, but as a new build tunnel linking to a line almost exactly at right angles to it, nuts! What's going on there? Has some survey determined that there is an unusually high proportion of transvestite dwarves in that area, a demographic hitherto neglected by transport planners? You've not see the TD-TSI amendment in the fourth railway package, then? -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 21:46:55 +0000
Basil Jet wrote: Am I the only one who think the Seven Sisters - Alexandra Palace branch is like an April Fool joke? I might be able to see some sense in it if Given how up and coming Muswell Hill is these days and the amount of bus traffic that crawls around there, I'd suggest re-opening the Highgate to Alexandra Palace branch wouldn't be a bad idea. The trackbed is still mostly extant and there could be a shuttle service to highgate high level where pax could walk down to the main northern line at the low level. -- Spud |
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On 2015\03\24 21:04, Roger T. wrote:
To quote from my rule book. "Expect movement on any track, in any direction at anytime." That's a reassuring thought as you do 125 through a converging junction. |
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On 24/03/2015 15:54, Recliner wrote:
- a station connecting to both Euston and King’s Cross, instead of at King’s Cross only That seems very sensible. If only they had thought of that when planning HS2. But it just occurs to me, perhaps they could add to the new station a pair of moving walkways connecting Euston with the King's Cross-St.Pancras complex? This would be greatly appreciated by all those who currently slog along the uneven pavements, exposed to the weather, between these two locations. It would also connect Eurostar/HS1 services and HS2, which currently have this large air gap between them. -- Clive Page |
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In message , at 11:03:54 on Fri, 27
Mar 2015, Clive Page remarked: - a station connecting to both Euston and King’s Cross, instead of at King’s Cross only That seems very sensible. If only they had thought of that when planning HS2. But it just occurs to me, perhaps they could add to the new station a pair of moving walkways connecting Euston with the King's Cross-St.Pancras complex? This would be greatly appreciated by all those who currently slog along the uneven pavements, exposed to the weather, between these two locations. It would also connect Eurostar/HS1 services and HS2, which currently have this large air gap between them. This idea crops up regularly (for as long as I can remember). I think the problem is the number existing things both above and below the ground over the route. -- Roland Perry |
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