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On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:13:26 +0000, Clive Page
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I'm surprised nobody else has noted here what I saw last week in (I
think) the Evening Standard: that TfL are about to tell passengers at
Holborn not to walk up the escalators. They claim that the
passenger-carrying capacity is greater when people stand on both left
and right. There was no mention of a penalty for those trying to walk
up the left hand side, but as we all know, it only takes one person to
block that side by standing on it for the whole system to degrade to
standing on both sides.

I really doubt the capacity arguments: it may be true that you get more
people on the standing side than on the walking side as walking needs a
bit more inter-person space, but on the other hand the number of people
per second is greater. I wonder if they have really done any measurements?

A much more productive move, in my opinion, would be to run their
escalators a bit faster: those in Moscow, Kiev, and other former soviet
cities, go about 50% faster in my experience. It comes as a slight
surprise to the visitor, but people seem to cope.


Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)
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On Sunday, 29 November 2015 10:27:42 UTC, Scott wrote:

Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)


Walking is bad for escalators. It damages them.
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On 29.11.15 11:52, Offramp wrote:
On Sunday, 29 November 2015 10:27:42 UTC, Scott wrote:

Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)


Walking is bad for escalators. It damages them.

How so?
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On Sunday, 29 November 2015 17:04:36 UTC, wrote:

Walking is bad for escalators. It damages them.

How so?


Standing on an escalator causes no damage. But walking on an escalator can cause flumatics in the Lower Machine Chamber.
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On 2015\11\29 17:22, Offramp wrote:
On Sunday, 29 November 2015 17:04:36 UTC, wrote:

Walking is bad for escalators. It damages them.

How so?


Standing on an escalator causes no damage. But walking on an escalator can cause flumatics in the Lower Machine Chamber.


Oh no, from there the flumatics might take over the asylum.


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On 2015-11-29, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:13:26 +0000, Clive Page
wrote:

I'm surprised nobody else has noted here what I saw last week in (I
think) the Evening Standard: that TfL are about to tell passengers at
Holborn not to walk up the escalators. They claim that the
passenger-carrying capacity is greater when people stand on both left
and right. There was no mention of a penalty for those trying to walk
up the left hand side, but as we all know, it only takes one person to
block that side by standing on it for the whole system to degrade to
standing on both sides.

I really doubt the capacity arguments: it may be true that you get more
people on the standing side than on the walking side as walking needs a
bit more inter-person space, but on the other hand the number of people
per second is greater. I wonder if they have really done any measurements?

A much more productive move, in my opinion, would be to run their
escalators a bit faster: those in Moscow, Kiev, and other former soviet
cities, go about 50% faster in my experience. It comes as a slight
surprise to the visitor, but people seem to cope.


Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)


Actually not funny, considering the number of reasons people are unable
to keep walking, especially up!

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On 2015\11\29 10:27, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:13:26 +0000, Clive Page
wrote:

I'm surprised nobody else has noted here what I saw last week in (I
think) the Evening Standard: that TfL are about to tell passengers at
Holborn not to walk up the escalators. They claim that the
passenger-carrying capacity is greater when people stand on both left
and right. There was no mention of a penalty for those trying to walk
up the left hand side, but as we all know, it only takes one person to
block that side by standing on it for the whole system to degrade to
standing on both sides.

I really doubt the capacity arguments: it may be true that you get more
people on the standing side than on the walking side as walking needs a
bit more inter-person space, but on the other hand the number of people
per second is greater. I wonder if they have really done any measurements?

A much more productive move, in my opinion, would be to run their
escalators a bit faster: those in Moscow, Kiev, and other former soviet
cities, go about 50% faster in my experience. It comes as a slight
surprise to the visitor, but people seem to cope.


Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)


If would help if they stopped telling us we must carry a dog.

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On 29.11.15 13:12, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\11\29 10:27, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 10:13:26 +0000, Clive Page
wrote:

I'm surprised nobody else has noted here what I saw last week in (I
think) the Evening Standard: that TfL are about to tell passengers at
Holborn not to walk up the escalators. They claim that the
passenger-carrying capacity is greater when people stand on both left
and right. There was no mention of a penalty for those trying to walk
up the left hand side, but as we all know, it only takes one person to
block that side by standing on it for the whole system to degrade to
standing on both sides.

I really doubt the capacity arguments: it may be true that you get more
people on the standing side than on the walking side as walking needs a
bit more inter-person space, but on the other hand the number of people
per second is greater. I wonder if they have really done any
measurements?

A much more productive move, in my opinion, would be to run their
escalators a bit faster: those in Moscow, Kiev, and other former soviet
cities, go about 50% faster in my experience. It comes as a slight
surprise to the visitor, but people seem to cope.


Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)


If would help if they stopped telling us we must carry a dog.

I would think that this is a pretty good idea, particularly in the case
of smaller dogs. I have seen teeth at the top and bottom eat peoples'
shoes.
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"Basil Jet" wrote

Or tell people not to stand on the escalators and keep walking :-)


If would help if they stopped telling us we must carry a dog.



"dogs must be carried" so dog or dogs.

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