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11) Stand there for a bit wondering if it's safe to go through
12) Pass through the barrier

.... or is it just me who comes across these idiots?



Left handed ticket users can be hilarious. Some do a kind
of contortion to use their left hand to insert the ticket. I even
had one put the ticket in my slot on the next barrier to the left,
which was nice of him :-)

All these contortions and you can't help thinking how hard
can it be to hold a ticket that weighs about 5 grams in your
right hand ??!!

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Edward Cowling wrote:

Left handed ticket users can be hilarious. Some do a kind
of contortion to use their left hand to insert the ticket. I even
had one put the ticket in my slot on the next barrier to the left,
which was nice of him :-)

All these contortions and you can't help thinking how hard
can it be to hold a ticket that weighs about 5 grams in your
right hand ??!!


Right handed *******s are the ones I find infuriating, especially the stupid
****s that have the audacity to design systems like ticket barriers the
wrong way round. I've absolutely no tolerance for right handed people,
they're the most bigoted arrogant ****s you're ever likely to find on the
underground.


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Edward Cowling wrote:

Left handed ticket users can be hilarious. Some do a kind
of contortion to use their left hand to insert the ticket. I even
had one put the ticket in my slot on the next barrier to the left,
which was nice of him :-)

All these contortions and you can't help thinking how hard
can it be to hold a ticket that weighs about 5 grams in your
right hand ??!!


Right handed *******s are the ones I find infuriating, especially the

stupid
****s that have the audacity to design systems like ticket barriers the
wrong way round. I've absolutely no tolerance for right handed people,
they're the most bigoted arrogant ****s you're ever likely to find on the
underground.


Two points:

- Right-handers are the majority, so it's not unreasonable that where a
design has to be "handed", right-handed is chosen.

- Why should an action such as holding a ticket be a "handed" operation? I'm
sure as a right-hander I'd have no difficulty whatsoever holding a ticket in
my left hand and feeding into a slot on the left side of the barrier if
that's how the barriers were designed. Are left-handed people less
ambidextrous (apart from skilled actions like writing) than right-handed
people?


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- Why should an action such as holding a ticket be a "handed" operation?

I'm
sure as a right-hander I'd have no difficulty whatsoever holding a ticket

in
my left hand and feeding into a slot on the left side of the barrier if
that's how the barriers were designed. Are left-handed people less
ambidextrous (apart from skilled actions like writing) than right-handed
people?


To me it isn't a problem, I'm left handed, and can happily work a ticket
gate with my right hand, I also do other things the right handed way, I use
a computer mouse with the right.
I believe it is also common for left handed people to hold a knife and fork
wrong, with the knife in the left - not me though.
Its these silly people who start requiring Left handed clocks that work
backwards and such which make left handed people seem strange.


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"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
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- Why should an action such as holding a ticket be a "handed" operation?

I'm
sure as a right-hander I'd have no difficulty whatsoever holding a

ticket
in
my left hand and feeding into a slot on the left side of the barrier if
that's how the barriers were designed. Are left-handed people less
ambidextrous (apart from skilled actions like writing) than right-handed
people?


To me it isn't a problem, I'm left handed, and can happily work a ticket
gate with my right hand, I also do other things the right handed way, I

use
a computer mouse with the right.
I believe it is also common for left handed people to hold a knife and

fork
wrong, with the knife in the left - not me though.
Its these silly people who start requiring Left handed clocks that work
backwards and such which make left handed people seem strange.


My mum is left-handed. But she was brought up to use her knife and fork in
the conventional hands (ie knife in right hand) and to use a right-handed
pair of scissors. All these actions are unskilled ones which don't require
any great dexterity[*], unlike writing: she cannot write with her right
hand to save her life, just as I cannot write with my left hand. For
writing, she holds her pen in an exact mirror-image to a right-handed person
(ie with the cap of the pen pointing over her left shoulder) unlike most
left-handed people who hold it very awkwardly, facing away from them to the
right, and with their wrists/little fingers above rather than below the line
of writing.

I've just tried using my computer mouse with my left hand. It feels ever so
slightly odd, but I'm sure within a couple of minutes I'd be used to it.
[*] Excuse the pun: I know that etymologically "dexterity" relates to the
right hand!





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(Martin Underwood) wrote:

"Darren" ] wrote in message
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"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
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- Why should an action such as holding a ticket be a "handed"
operation?

I'm
sure as a right-hander I'd have no difficulty whatsoever holding a

ticket
in
my left hand and feeding into a slot on the left side of the
barrier if
that's how the barriers were designed. Are left-handed people less
ambidextrous (apart from skilled actions like writing) than
right-handed
people?


To me it isn't a problem, I'm left handed, and can happily work a
ticket
gate with my right hand, I also do other things the right handed way,
I

use
a computer mouse with the right.
I believe it is also common for left handed people to hold a knife and

fork
wrong, with the knife in the left - not me though.
Its these silly people who start requiring Left handed clocks that
work
backwards and such which make left handed people seem strange.


My mum is left-handed. But she was brought up to use her knife and fork
in
the conventional hands (ie knife in right hand) and to use a
right-handed
pair of scissors. All these actions are unskilled ones which don't
require
any great dexterity[*], unlike writing: she cannot write with her right
hand to save her life, just as I cannot write with my left hand. For
writing, she holds her pen in an exact mirror-image to a right-handed
person
(ie with the cap of the pen pointing over her left shoulder) unlike most
left-handed people who hold it very awkwardly, facing away from them to
the
right, and with their wrists/little fingers above rather than below the
line
of writing.

I've just tried using my computer mouse with my left hand. It feels
ever so
slightly odd, but I'm sure within a couple of minutes I'd be used to it.

[*] Excuse the pun: I know that etymologically "dexterity" relates to
the
right hand!




Or as a comedian said "use your other hand, it will feel like a stranger"
no idea what he meant, though :-)

Roger
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In article , Darren
] writes
Its these silly people who start requiring Left handed clocks that work
backwards and such which make left handed people seem strange.


Left-hand clocks are a joke.

Scissors only work if held in the right hand. If you want ones for use
in the left hand, they need to be constructed in a different way. If
you're left-handed, you might find such scissors better for detailed
work.

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In article , Darren
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Its these silly people who start requiring Left handed clocks that work
backwards and such which make left handed people seem strange.


Left-hand clocks are a joke.

Scissors only work if held in the right hand. If you want ones for use
in the left hand, they need to be constructed in a different way. If
you're left-handed, you might find such scissors better for detailed
work.


I've tried using left-handed scissors with my left hand - felt a bit funny
but soon got used to it. As I said earlier, I wonder if left-handers
generally are more polarised to left-handedness and less ambidextrous than
right-handers for non-precision tasks?

On a related "handedness" issue, I knew someone who had great difficulty
driving in mainland Europe becauase she expected the pedals and the
arrangement of the gears on the gear lever to be mirror image in an LHD
car - she couldn't get her brain around the fact that they were the same as
in an RHD car.


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Martin Underwood wrote:
As I said earlier, I wonder if
left-handers generally are more polarised to left-handedness and
less ambidextrous than right-handers for non-precision tasks?


This seems to me to be rather unlikely, as left-handers have to adapt
continually to the right-handedness of everyday objects, and should
therefore become more ambidextrous than the average right-hander.
Possibly resentment about this can lead to some left-handers
deliberately (or subconsciously)limiting their apparent ambidexterity?
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JRS: In article , seen in
news:uk.transport.london, Clive D. W. Feather clive@on-the-
train.demon.co.uk posted at Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:41:56 :

Scissors only work if held in the right hand. If you want ones for use
in the left hand, they need to be constructed in a different way. If
you're left-handed, you might find such scissors better for detailed
work.


I am right-handed. I've just tested a new pair of WHS scissors in my
left hand, and they cut in the normal fashion (there is, of course, less
dexterity). Those scissors have symmetrical handles.

An ancient, and less sharp, pair, also cut properly when held left-
handedly; but a little care is needed initially.

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