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Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your
wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail /
London Underground.


Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency as I
have never heard of them.
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In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your
wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail /
London Underground.


Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency as I
have never heard of them.


Google is your friend


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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Robin Mayes wrote:

"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your
wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail /
London Underground.


Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency as I
have never heard of them.


Google is your friend


And suggests that there is no such thing - there is however, a Transport
Security group (known as 'TRANSEC', like in a Tom Clancy novel or
something) at the DfT:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ssec_page.hcsp

tom

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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Robin Mayes wrote:

"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the
benefit of your wisdom, rather than blame the Train
Operating Companies / Network Rail / London Underground.

Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency
as I have never heard of them.


Google is your friend


And suggests that there is no such thing


Well, it actually suggests that the TSA is the American government
agency for transport security. But in the UK ...

- there is however, a Transport Security group (known as 'TRANSEC',
like in a Tom Clancy novel or something) at the DfT:


http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ssec_page.hcsp

Indeed. TRANSEC is the name given to the Transport Security Division of
the UK's Department for Transport.
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:33:11 +0100, Andrew P Smith
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In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your
wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail /
London Underground.


Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency as I
have never heard of them.


Transec - part of the DfT. I've had to go and make a presentation to
some of their representatives. An interesting bunch of people.
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In article , Robin Mayes
writes

"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your
wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail /
London Underground.


Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency as I
have never heard of them.


Google is your friend


Done that - nothing relevant came up. So prove your statement.

What is the Transport Security Agency?
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"JB" wrote in message ...
do
you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but

I
do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason
not to
have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos
these
days.

B2003




Also had the misfortune to watch a small child eating a burger
on the train. The mayonnaise was oozing out of the burger and the child
was wiping it on the seats next to him whilst his mother was smiling
adoringly. Great news if you happen to sit next to him not.




There are a lot of things that people do on the tube which infer with
the smooth running of the tube and can cause discomfort to passengers.
People who put their bags on the seats leaving people to stand?
However, considering London Underground does not have the resources to
stop people skipping paying tube fares I would love to know how London
Underground would stop people from taking hot food on to the tube. A
lot of gate staff don't flinch when people jump the barriers or push
through the gates so I doubt they will chase after someone smuggling a
cheeseburger onto the tube.
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Richard J. wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Robin Mayes wrote:

"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
...

In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the
benefit of your wisdom, rather than blame the Train
Operating Companies / Network Rail / London Underground.

Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency
as I have never heard of them.

Google is your friend


And suggests that there is no such thing


Well, it actually suggests that the TSA is the American government
agency for transport security.


pedantIN ACTUAL FACT, it suggests that the Transport Security Agency
doesn't exist - the TSA is the Transportation Security Administration.
Although 'Transport Security Agency' is a common misexpansion of that
acronym.

tom

ps, What, you're expecting a /pedant? 8)

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On 7 Jun 2004, CJG Now Thankfully Living In The North wrote:

"JB" wrote in message ...

do you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a
biscuit?) but I do think its time that LU started reintroducing
bins. Theres no reason not to have then since as we've seen
terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos these days.

Also had the misfortune to watch a small child eating a burger on
the train. The mayonnaise was oozing out of the burger and the child
was wiping it on the seats next to him whilst his mother was smiling
adoringly. Great news if you happen to sit next to him not.


There are a lot of things that people do on the tube which infer with
the smooth running of the tube and can cause discomfort to passengers.
People who put their bags on the seats leaving people to stand?
However, considering London Underground does not have the resources to
stop people skipping paying tube fares I would love to know how London
Underground would stop people from taking hot food on to the tube. A lot
of gate staff don't flinch when people jump the barriers or push through
the gates so I doubt they will chase after someone smuggling a
cheeseburger onto the tube.


SOLUTION = ARM TUBE STAFF.

HTH. HAND.

tom

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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 18:32:06 +0100, Andrew P Smith
wrote:

In article , Robin Mayes
writes

"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
...
In article , Robin Mayes
writes

Perhaps you should give the Transport Security Agency the benefit of your
wisdom, rather than blame the Train Operating Companies / Network Rail /
London Underground.

Perhaps you can provide details of the Transport Security Agency as I
have never heard of them.


Google is your friend


Done that - nothing relevant came up. So prove your statement.

What is the Transport Security Agency?


http://www.dtlr.gov.uk/ann_rpt/chap_7.htm
http://www.parliament.the-stationery...t/40427w10.htm
http://www.dtlr.gov.uk/annual99/24.htm
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...ec_025705.hcsp

the last one is the most relevant.

HTH

I suspect Robin has come across them because some inspectors actually
turned up at one of the stations he works at to take a look at how
secure the place was.

Just because someone may have slightly misquoted the name does not mean
that such departments do not exist.
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