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How easy is it to get a PT for the tube? I'm coming down to London next week
from 'oop north' and am hoping to use my BR employee travel pass to get a
'privilege ticket' but have heard from some colleagues that it is nigh on
impossible to get one?!? I'm looking at buying an off-peak travel card for
zones 1&2, I realise this will cost £5 or so per day but I'm hoping to get
discount on that, anyone able to offer advice on how to get one and how much
it might cost?

Thanx in advance!

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How easy is it to get a PT for the tube? I'm coming down to London next

week
from 'oop north' and am hoping to use my BR employee travel pass to get a
'privilege ticket' but have heard from some colleagues that it is nigh on
impossible to get one?!? I'm looking at buying an off-peak travel card for
zones 1&2, I realise this will cost £5 or so per day but I'm hoping to get
discount on that, anyone able to offer advice on how to get one and how

much
it might cost?

Thanx in advance!

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Speaking as railway staff I can say I've never had a problem. It's a pain
you can't buy them in advance and you've got to go to the ticket window but
other than that a flash of the pass and there's no problem. They also
usually mis-price it to a 75% priv.

You can only get an all underground pass not a travel card (that includes
buses) as rail staff don't qualify for bus discounts.


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Thanks for the swift reply JB. I only wanted one for the underground so that
suits me fine(apart from next Thursday!) but you mention how they usually
mis-price it? What discount should we get as I was led to believe we got 75%
off, or am I wrong?

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"JB" wrote in message
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Thanks for the swift reply JB. I only wanted one for the underground so

that
suits me fine(apart from next Thursday!) but you mention how they usually
mis-price it? What discount should we get as I was led to believe we got

75%
off, or am I wrong?

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Technically Ex-BR staff get 75% discount on season tickets and 50% discount
on turn-up-and-travel tickets.


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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:30:45 +0100 JB
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Speaking as railway staff I can say I've never had a problem. It's a pain
you can't buy them in advance and you've got to go to the ticket window but
other than that a flash of the pass and there's no problem. They also
usually mis-price it to a 75% priv.


Talking of priv rates on LUL, why is that ticket office staff always have
problems in issuing priv rate extensions? I've had some LUL staff deny
they exist or have great difficulty pushing the right keys. Most of the
ones I buy to go further than my Zone 1 & 2 priv rate annual won't
operate the gates the other end.

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Priv tickets are issued via the standard single/return section on the TOM
then the category is changed to priv then we have to look at a table for the
priv rate. So it takes a little longer.

To get priv travel you must be in possession of a Priv Pass otherwise a priv
will not (or should not be issued). One other thing, some staff may ask to
have a closer look as some do exclude London Underground from the facility
(don't know why).

If you are coming in to Kings Cross enjoy the queues upstairs at the
temporary ticket office! :-(

Steve
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:30:45 +0100 JB
said...

Speaking as railway staff I can say I've never had a problem. It's a

pain
you can't buy them in advance and you've got to go to the ticket window

but
other than that a flash of the pass and there's no problem. They also
usually mis-price it to a 75% priv.


Talking of priv rates on LUL, why is that ticket office staff always have
problems in issuing priv rate extensions? I've had some LUL staff deny
they exist or have great difficulty pushing the right keys. Most of the
ones I buy to go further than my Zone 1 & 2 priv rate annual won't
operate the gates the other end.

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London, N4



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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:33:54 +0100, "JB"
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Technically Ex-BR staff get 75% discount on season tickets and 50% discount
on turn-up-and-travel tickets.


Not correct, 'safeguarded' staff (i.e. ex-BR) have always got 75%
discount from all standard tube fares, such as singles and returns,
and the same for seasons - although these have to be ordered in
advance with a special form from your TOC. No discounts on bus tickets
though, as previous posters have mentioned.

For example, I bought a single from Waterloo to Paddington last night
for 50p - 75% of the normal £2.00 single fare.

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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:33:54 +0100, "JB"
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Technically Ex-BR staff get 75% discount on season tickets and 50%

discount
on turn-up-and-travel tickets.


Not correct, 'safeguarded' staff (i.e. ex-BR) have always got 75%
discount from all standard tube fares, such as singles and returns,
and the same for seasons - although these have to be ordered in
advance with a special form from your TOC. No discounts on bus tickets
though, as previous posters have mentioned.


Upon what do you base this assumption? I'm sitting here reading my "Welcome
to Network South East" (1994) literature telling me what my travel
concessions are and it says 75% discount on tube seasons and 50% discount
for daily fares. Where did you read your information?


For example, I bought a single from Waterloo to Paddington last night
for 50p - 75% of the normal £2.00 single fare.

hth



As I've previously mentioned I'm almost always charged 25% cost also - it
doesn't mean it's correct.



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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:47:48 +0100 SJCWHUK
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Priv tickets are issued via the standard single/return section on the TOM
then the category is changed to priv then we have to look at a table for the
priv rate. So it takes a little longer.


So the machine can't calculate 75% of the normal fare or extension?
Amazing! BR's APTIS system IIRC simply has a button marked PRIV which
works out the reduction.

To get priv travel you must be in possession of a Priv Pass otherwise a priv
will not (or should not be issued). One other thing, some staff may ask to
have a closer look as some do exclude London Underground from the facility
(don't know why).


I always show my

(a) LUL Zones 1 & 2 Season
(b) BR Priv card which has endorsement 1 on it

Endorsements 9, 10 & 11 aren't valid on LUL services.

If you are coming in to Kings Cross enjoy the queues upstairs at the
temporary ticket office! :-(


Thankfully rarely have to queue up at Central London stations. My local
station is Finsbury Park where I have the choice of the WAGN ticket or
LUL. The former are usually quicker than LUL (shorter queues, less
faffing about) despite being by the opposite entrance to the one I use.

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London, N4
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Yep,

as LUL are in zones you have to key in the single/return fare as you don't
name the stations. That's why we have to do the same thing for priv.

Steve

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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:47:48 +0100 SJCWHUK
said...

Priv tickets are issued via the standard single/return section on the

TOM
then the category is changed to priv then we have to look at a table for

the
priv rate. So it takes a little longer.


So the machine can't calculate 75% of the normal fare or extension?
Amazing! BR's APTIS system IIRC simply has a button marked PRIV which
works out the reduction.

To get priv travel you must be in possession of a Priv Pass otherwise a

priv
will not (or should not be issued). One other thing, some staff may ask

to
have a closer look as some do exclude London Underground from the

facility
(don't know why).


I always show my

(a) LUL Zones 1 & 2 Season
(b) BR Priv card which has endorsement 1 on it

Endorsements 9, 10 & 11 aren't valid on LUL services.

If you are coming in to Kings Cross enjoy the queues upstairs at the
temporary ticket office! :-(


Thankfully rarely have to queue up at Central London stations. My local
station is Finsbury Park where I have the choice of the WAGN ticket or
LUL. The former are usually quicker than LUL (shorter queues, less
faffing about) despite being by the opposite entrance to the one I use.

--
Phil Richards
London, N4





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