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Dave Arquati wrote:

Building a flyover harks back to the 60s when it was considered
acceptable to plonk concrete megaliths in the middle of residential
areas because car traffic was much more important than everything else.
See the Westway. It's interesting to watch the cityscape as you're going
along it, but it's probably not so nice the look out of your house at
the Westway.



Yes, but Henleys corner doesn't have any houses on one side and perhaps
those on the other side would rather that than not be able to go
anywhere because teh traffic is gridlocked?


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Stuart wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Building a flyover harks back to the 60s when it was considered
acceptable to plonk concrete megaliths in the middle of residential
areas because car traffic was much more important than everything
else. See the Westway. It's interesting to watch the cityscape as
you're going along it, but it's probably not so nice the look out of
your house at the Westway.


Yes, but Henleys corner doesn't have any houses on one side and perhaps
those on the other side would rather that than not be able to go
anywhere because teh traffic is gridlocked?


The people in those houses have probably been suffering from blight for
the last 20 years and are waiting for *any* work to proceed just so they
can get their houses valued and move out if possible!

A flyover would spread out ~50mph traffic noise nicely over a much wider
area. I imagine the Westway can be heard from quite a distance away.

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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Stuart wrote:

Henleys corner doesn't have any houses on
one side and perhaps those on the other side
would rather that than not be able to go
anywhere because teh traffic is gridlocked?


Getting away from Henlys is easy in any direction. Getting to Henlys is easy
from any direction if you know the small roads, which the locals would.

The people in those houses have probably been
suffering from blight for the last 20 years and are
waiting for *any* work to proceed just so they
can get their houses valued and move out if possible!

A flyover would spread out ~50mph traffic noise
nicely over a much wider area.


A flyover would create moving 50mph traffic where there is now a permanent
traffic jam. The large size of the buildings on the north side would
probably prevent the sound from spreading. There would also be an increase
in traffic, both from local traffic which currently avoids the area, and
also from longer distance traffic which currently uses the M25 because
Henlys is so bad.

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Nick H (UK) wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
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It is about time they did something about the A406. It is absolutely
ridiculous that such a strategic trunk road linking east/north/west
London has so many bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey
times and frayed nerves.


Is it? How can you justify completing the grade separation of the
North Circular, when the South Circular has not a single grade
separated junction and few dual carriageway sections?


The South Circular mostly does not even exist. That's the problem


It is - you need a PhD in applied existentialism just to bloody use it.

Still, keeps the traffic down.

tom

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Stuart wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Building a flyover harks back to the 60s when it was considered
acceptable to plonk concrete megaliths in the middle of residential
areas because car traffic was much more important than everything
else. See the Westway. It's interesting to watch the cityscape as
you're going along it, but it's probably not so nice the look out of
your house at the Westway.




Yes, but Henleys corner doesn't have any houses on one side and perhaps
those on the other side would rather that than not be able to go
anywhere because teh traffic is gridlocked?


Why are 'residents' supposed to prefer traffic jams to flowing traffic?
This just seems to me to be one of the modern road-dogma stupidities.

My local council has done a very good job of creating congestion. I
don't like it any more when I'm out on foot shopping than I do when I'm
trying to drive through it. Does anyone?

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