The Transport for London business plan for 2005 - 2012 includes "Schemes to
relieve traffic congestion and improve the local environment at Coulsden,
Bounds Green and Thames Road, Bexley"

I think this may be the minor improvemets planned and not the D3 grade
separated route.

There are details of the minor improvements at
http://www.londontransport.co.uk/str...20Bounds%20Gre
en.pdf

Kelly Lee wrote:
The Transport for London business plan for 2005 - 2012 includes "Schemes to
relieve traffic congestion and improve the local environment at Coulsden,
Bounds Green and Thames Road, Bexley"

I think this may be the minor improvemets planned and not the D3 grade
separated route.

There are details of the minor improvements at
http://www.londontransport.co.uk/str...20Bounds%20Gre
en.pdf

It was decided that the grade-separated route was too expensive, at a
cost of £900m for all the improvements (Henleys Corner, Bounds Green,
Green Lanes). So instead TfL are progressing a smaller £24m set of
improvements and they'll see how it goes.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Kelly Lee" wrote in message
...
The Transport for London business plan for 2005 - 2012 includes "Schemes
to
relieve traffic congestion and improve the local environment at Coulsden,
Bounds Green and Thames Road, Bexley"

I think this may be the minor improvemets planned and not the D3 grade
separated route.

There are details of the minor improvements at
http://www.londontransport.co.uk/str...20Bounds%20Gre
en.pdf



It is about time they did something about the A406. It is absolutely
ridiculous that such a strategic trunk road linking east/north/west London
has so many bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey times and frayed
nerves.

Some sections are OK (up to 5 lanes each way with underpasses and slip
roads) but other sections have just one lane each way and traffic lights at
busy junctions.

"RW" wrote in message
...

It is about time they did something about the A406.
It is absolutely ridiculous that such a strategic trunk
road linking east/north/west London has so many
bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey times
and frayed nerves.

Is it? How can you justify completing the grade separation of the North
Circular, when the South Circular has not a single grade separated junction
and few dual carriageway sections?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"RW" wrote in message
...

It is about time they did something about the A406.
It is absolutely ridiculous that such a strategic trunk
road linking east/north/west London has so many
bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey times
and frayed nerves.

Is it? How can you justify completing the grade separation of the North
Circular, when the South Circular has not a single grade separated
junction
and few dual carriageway sections?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



....because I never use the South Circular

RW wrote:

It is about time they did something about the A406. It is absolutely
ridiculous that such a strategic trunk road linking east/north/west London
has so many bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey times and frayed
nerves.

Some sections are OK (up to 5 lanes each way with underpasses and slip
roads) but other sections have just one lane each way and traffic lights at
busy junctions.

It is long overdue.

The frustrating thing is that most of the ground work has been done;
houses have been bought and demolished and in the case of the Bounds
Green - Green Lanes stretch there are already extra bridge 'arches' for
the extra lanes to go.

The main problem is Henlys Corner, especially westbound. To have 2 major
road merge in and out like that is just ridiculous. either side is dual
carriageway, surely even a basic 4 lane flyover would relieve things
immensely.

Stuart wrote:
RW wrote:

It is about time they did something about the A406. It is absolutely
ridiculous that such a strategic trunk road linking east/north/west
London has so many bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey
times and frayed nerves.

Some sections are OK (up to 5 lanes each way with underpasses and slip
roads) but other sections have just one lane each way and traffic
lights at busy junctions.


It is long overdue.

The frustrating thing is that most of the ground work has been done;
houses have been bought and demolished and in the case of the Bounds
Green - Green Lanes stretch there are already extra bridge 'arches' for
the extra lanes to go.

The main problem is Henlys Corner, especially westbound. To have 2 major
road merge in and out like that is just ridiculous. either side is dual
carriageway, surely even a basic 4 lane flyover would relieve things
immensely.

Building a flyover harks back to the 60s when it was considered
acceptable to plonk concrete megaliths in the middle of residential
areas because car traffic was much more important than everything else.
See the Westway. It's interesting to watch the cityscape as you're going
along it, but it's probably not so nice the look out of your house at
the Westway.

The Government-approved scheme which was scrapped recently was to build
a tunnel at Henlys Corner. Although much better for local residents than
a flyover, it would have been extremely expensive and that's why the
Mayor dropped it when he published his Transport Strategy in 2001.
Rather than making improvements just for car users, it seems more
appropriate to improve safety for motorists and pedestrians at the
junction (given that the current footbridges are virtually unused as
pedestrians don't like being relegated to bridges and tunnels).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Stuart" wrote in message
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RW wrote:

It is about time they did something about the A406. It is absolutely
ridiculous that such a strategic trunk road linking east/north/west
London
has so many bottlenecks, resulting in absurdly long journey times and
frayed
nerves.

Some sections are OK (up to 5 lanes each way with underpasses and slip
roads) but other sections have just one lane each way and traffic lights
at
busy junctions.

It is long overdue.

The frustrating thing is that most of the ground work has been done;
houses have been bought and demolished and in the case of the Bounds
Green - Green Lanes stretch there are already extra bridge 'arches' for
the extra lanes to go.

The main problem is Henlys Corner, especially westbound. To have 2 major
road merge in and out like that is just ridiculous. either side is dual
carriageway, surely even a basic 4 lane flyover would relieve things
immensely.



Even if all 3 of the schemes did go ahead (Bounds Green - Green Lanes,
Henlys Corner and Golders Green Road) there would still not be a grade
separated route from the A40 to the A406, there is an at grade signal
controlled junction at IKEA (Drury Way/Brentfield Road) and there have been
no plans to upgrade this.

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

The Government-approved scheme which was scrapped
recently was to build a tunnel at Henlys Corner. Although
much better for local residents than a flyover, it would
have been extremely expensive and that's why the
Mayor dropped it when he published his Transport
Strategy in 2001. Rather than making improvements
just for car users, it seems more appropriate to improve
safety for motorists and pedestrians at the junction
(given that the current footbridges are virtually unused as
pedestrians don't like being relegated to bridges and tunnels).

Where are the footbridges at Henlys?

Incidentally, I have just designed a grade separated junction for Henlys on
the back of an envelope. It's easy - all it needs is two perpendicular
bridges and one somewhat skew bridge to give both the A1 and the A406 a
straight run through. All turns would be allowed, including A1 w/b to A406
e/b, which is currently banned. Land take would be small, and gradients
would be easy. Whether it could cope with the traffic flows is another
question.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

John Rowland wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

The Government-approved scheme which was scrapped
recently was to build a tunnel at Henlys Corner. Although
much better for local residents than a flyover, it would
have been extremely expensive and that's why the
Mayor dropped it when he published his Transport
Strategy in 2001. Rather than making improvements
just for car users, it seems more appropriate to improve
safety for motorists and pedestrians at the junction
(given that the current footbridges are virtually unused as
pedestrians don't like being relegated to bridges and tunnels).

Where are the footbridges at Henlys?

Incidentally, I have just designed a grade separated junction for
Henlys on the back of an envelope. It's easy - all it needs is two
perpendicular bridges and one somewhat skew bridge to give both the
A1 and the A406 a straight run through. All turns would be allowed,
including A1 w/b to A406 e/b, which is currently banned. Land take
would be small, and gradients would be easy. Whether it could cope
with the traffic flows is another question.

Have you taken into account the topography and the geology?