I mailnly travel on the District, Picidily and Circle lines and notice that
when some idiot wedges their foot in the door they all reopen. I had
assumed this was universal that all the doors reopen so other people can
board during the delay or because of cost cutting in the onboard circuitry.

Yesterday on the Central line I saw all the doors closing, then one door per
carriage (the 3rd from the front) all reopened and then closed.

Are there any other irregularities and why does this happen? What used to
happen when the open buttons on the doors were enabled?

Chris

"Chris" wrote in message
...
I mailnly travel on the District, Picidily and Circle lines and notice that
when some idiot wedges their foot in the door they all reopen. I had
assumed this was universal that all the doors reopen so other people can
board during the delay or because of cost cutting in the onboard circuitry.

Yesterday on the Central line I saw all the doors closing, then one door
per carriage (the 3rd from the front) all reopened and then closed.

Are there any other irregularities and why does this happen? What used to
happen when the open buttons on the doors were enabled?


The older trains operating on the District, Piccidilly and Circle lines are
operated by the Train Operator (the driver to us mere mortals). S/he can
only open all the doors on the train together, there is no option to reopen
a specific car. Hence when some thoughtless wazzock puts their foot in the
door, and the driver is in a good mood, s/he has no option but to reopen all
the doors together.

The Central Line stock I don't know about.

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

The older trains operating on the District, Piccidilly and Circle lines
are
operated by the Train Operator (the driver to us mere mortals). S/he can
only open all the doors on the train together, there is no option to
reopen
a specific car. Hence when some thoughtless wazzock puts their foot in the
door, and the driver is in a good mood, s/he has no option but to reopen
all
the doors together.

It's much more fun when the driver is *not* in a good mood and makes a PA
announcement to embarrass the miscreant, whilst refusing to open the doors.
If you're in the affected car then it is even more fun watching as the other
passengers form a lynch mob.

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:43:45 -0000, "Jack Taylor"
wrote:


It's much more fun when the driver is *not* in a good mood and makes a PA
announcement to embarrass the miscreant, whilst refusing to open the doors.
If you're in the affected car then it is even more fun watching as the other
passengers form a lynch mob.

Depends. I got into a Northern Line recently, which was busy, and my
bag fouled the closing doors. The total ****-for-brains up front just
wouldn't open the door. I didn't budge (I couldn't) nor did ****-face.

Eventually other passengers (a lynch mob?) helped me to prise the
doors open enough for my bag to be freed.

I hope the driver's knob fell off.

In article ,
(Ken Wheatley) wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:43:45 -0000, "Jack Taylor"
wrote:

It's much more fun when the driver is *not* in a good mood and makes a
PA announcement to embarrass the miscreant, whilst refusing to open the
doors. If you're in the affected car then it is even more fun watching
as the other passengers form a lynch mob.

Depends. I got into a Northern Line recently, which was busy, and my
bag fouled the closing doors. The total ****-for-brains up front just
wouldn't open the door. I didn't budge (I couldn't) nor did ****-face.

Eventually other passengers (a lynch mob?) helped me to prise the
doors open enough for my bag to be freed.

I hope the driver's knob fell off.

I've seen extended delays in similar circumstances. All the train operator
needed to do was re-open and close the doors and he's have been away much
quicker.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Ken Wheatley wrote:
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:43:45 -0000, "Jack Taylor"
wrote:


It's much more fun when the driver is *not* in a good mood and makes
a PA announcement to embarrass the miscreant, whilst refusing to
open the doors. If you're in the affected car then it is even more
fun watching as the other passengers form a lynch mob.

Depends. I got into a Northern Line recently, which was busy, and my
bag fouled the closing doors. The total ****-for-brains up front just
wouldn't open the door. I didn't budge (I couldn't) nor did ****-face.

Eventually other passengers (a lynch mob?) helped me to prise the
doors open enough for my bag to be freed.

I hope the driver's knob fell off.

I suppose it didn't occur to you that if you hadn't got on after the doors
started to close your bag wouldn't have got stuck and you wouldn't then have
delayed everyone else who was on the train?

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:13:21 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
wrote:



I suppose it didn't occur to you that if you hadn't got on after the doors
started to close your bag wouldn't have got stuck and you wouldn't then have
delayed everyone else who was on the train?

No, because I didn't get on as they closed. It was just a bloody
awkward bag that slid down my arm as I boarded.

In article ,
(Ken Wheatley) wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:43:45 -0000, "Jack Taylor"
wrote:


It's much more fun when the driver is *not* in a good mood and makes a
PA
announcement to embarrass the miscreant, whilst refusing to open the
doors.
If you're in the affected car then it is even more fun watching as the
other
passengers form a lynch mob.

Depends. I got into a Northern Line recently, which was busy, and my
bag fouled the closing doors. The total ****-for-brains up front just
wouldn't open the door. I didn't budge (I couldn't) nor did ****-face.

Eventually other passengers (a lynch mob?) helped me to prise the
doors open enough for my bag to be freed.

I hope the driver's knob fell off.

And then, of course, you get The total ****-for-brains passengers who
decide they're not going to make the closing doors in person but will
swing their bag/umbrella etc. in the doors. This happens a lot. One time,
having watched somebody do just this, the doors closed after a few seconds
delay with the passenger still on the platform waving. Off I went. Turns
out that somebody in the car had pulled the bag into the car, thus
separating passenger from bag!

One of the benefits of recorded CCTV is that there can be a replay when a
passenger complains that he was "trapped in the doors". Sometimes it has
turned out that the passenger was nowhere near the train. usually
it is proved that the doors were already closing before the person
was near them. Judging by the antics of some passengers, such as standing
idly on the platform then making a sudden dash for the closing doors, it
appears that their hoping to have an incident where they can claim
compensation from LU.

Roger

wrote in message
...

And then, of course, you get The total ****-for-brains passengers who
decide they're not going to make the closing doors in person but will
swing their bag/umbrella etc. in the doors. This happens a lot. One time,
having watched somebody do just this, the doors closed after a few seconds
delay with the passenger still on the platform waving. Off I went. Turns
out that somebody in the car had pulled the bag into the car, thus
separating passenger from bag!

One of the benefits of recorded CCTV is that there can be a replay when a
passenger complains that he was "trapped in the doors". Sometimes it has
turned out that the passenger was nowhere near the train. usually
it is proved that the doors were already closing before the person
was near them. Judging by the antics of some passengers, such as standing
idly on the platform then making a sudden dash for the closing doors, it
appears that their hoping to have an incident where they can claim
compensation from LU.


When I was a member of that much lamented breed, a guard, we were westbound
through Hyde Park Corner (platform access at the extreme rear of the train
and guard's position in the back cab) one evening peak when some jerk dashed
on the platform and swung a large (half gallon) can of paint into the
almost closed doors.

He then looked at me with a silly smirk as if to say "Well, you're going to
have to open them again now aren't you?"

I went up to him, grabbed the handle and tugged but it came away so I got
hold of the tin itself and pulled. As I gave it to him I remarked that he
shouldn't have put it in in the first place, got back in the can and gave
the driver the signal to start.

The silly smirk had disappeared from his face and had been replaced by one
much more satisfying, well to me at least.

Why didn't I simply re-open the doors? Firstly because of the attitude that
the silly smirk betrayed and secondly because there were other people
directly behind him with more approaching I could have been there all night.

There was an apocryphal tale of a guard who got a bollocking for failing to
reopen the doors for someone who came dashing onto the platform at the last
moment. Apparently he took the manager's advice to heart and allowed those
who wished to to get on the train. Allegedly he was at Green Park during one
evening peak for some twenty minutes.

In article ,
(Brimstone) wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
...
I mailnly travel on the District, Picidily and Circle lines and notice
that when some idiot wedges their foot in the door they all reopen. I
had assumed this was universal that all the doors reopen so other
people can board during the delay or because of cost cutting in the
onboard circuitry.

Yesterday on the Central line I saw all the doors closing, then one
door per carriage (the 3rd from the front) all reopened and then
closed.

Are there any other irregularities and why does this happen? What
used to happen when the open buttons on the doors were enabled?

The older trains operating on the District, Piccidilly and Circle lines
are operated by the Train Operator (the driver to us mere mortals).
S/he can only open all the doors on the train together, there is no
option to reopen a specific car. Hence when some thoughtless wazzock
puts their foot in the door, and the driver is in a good mood, s/he has
no option but to reopen all the doors together.

The Central Line stock I don't know about.

Newer stocks have selective door re-opening. No doubt someone here will
now tell use which stocks have the feature.

--
Colin Rosenstiel