On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:08:07 +0100, John wrote:

Firstly, can I say what a wonderful job all the police, ambulance, fire
services, underground and bus staff have done to cope with this event. I
know from speaking to a policemen closely involved that it was a great
shock and will take months for some to get over.

Unfortunately I (and others) have to go to work on Monday (Friday wasn't
too bad because so many stayed at home). Does anyone know what is
planned to be different to Monday or when we are likely to see a change?

Circle Line: No service.

Hammersmith & City Line: No service between Paddington and Barking

Metropolitan Line: No service between Moorgate and Aldgate

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

District Line :No service between High Street Kensington and Edgware
Road.

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only

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lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only

When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What reason is
there not to do so now?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only

When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What reason is
there not to do so now?

Presumably any passengers using the Victoria or Northern lines would be
getting in the way of the rescue workers on the Piccadilly platforms.

Peter Smyth

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(Peter Smyth) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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In article ,
lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line trains
only

When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What reason is
there not to do so now?

Presumably any passengers using the Victoria or Northern lines would be
getting in the way of the rescue workers on the Piccadilly platforms.

I find that surprising, for the Victoria at least. It has separate
escalators even. Also the reports said the rescue work was having to take
place from the front of the train, i,e. Russell Square.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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(Peter Smyth) wrote:

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lid (asdf) wrote:

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos
Grove and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Kings Cross Underground Station is open for Metropolitan line
trains only

When will the Victoria and Northern platforms re-open? What
reason is there not to do so now?

Presumably any passengers using the Victoria or Northern lines
would be getting in the way of the rescue workers on the
Piccadilly platforms.

I find that surprising, for the Victoria at least. It has separate
escalators even. Also the reports said the rescue work was having
to take place from the front of the train, i,e. Russell Square.

Then perhaps the reports are wrong. Many of them are still
contradictory, so it wouldn't surprise me. As for King's Cross St
Pancras, don't all the main escalators lead to the same tube ticket
hall? It seems to me perfectly reasonable that the people examining and
removing body parts from the tunnel should be able to bring them up into
an area to which the public don't have access. Possibly the Victoria
could be accessed via the Thameslink station, but I'm not sure what the
crowd control implications would be.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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(Richard J.) wrote:

I find that surprising, for the Victoria at least. It has separate
escalators even. Also the reports said the rescue work was having
to take place from the front of the train, i,e. Russell Square.

Then perhaps the reports are wrong. Many of them are still
contradictory, so it wouldn't surprise me. As for King's Cross St
Pancras, don't all the main escalators lead to the same tube ticket
hall? It seems to me perfectly reasonable that the people examining and
removing body parts from the tunnel should be able to bring them up into
an area to which the public don't have access. Possibly the Victoria
could be accessed via the Thameslink station, but I'm not sure what the
crowd control implications would be.

But the access was said to be via Russell Square, surely? The ticket hall
is common, insofar as it isn't a building site.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
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(Richard J.) wrote:

I find that surprising, for the Victoria at least. It has separate
escalators even. Also the reports said the rescue work was having
to take place from the front of the train, i,e. Russell Square.

Then perhaps the reports are wrong. Many of them are still
contradictory, so it wouldn't surprise me. As for King's Cross St
Pancras, don't all the main escalators lead to the same tube ticket
hall? It seems to me perfectly reasonable that the people
examining and removing body parts from the tunnel should be able
to bring them up into an area to which the public don't have
access. Possibly the Victoria could be accessed via the
Thameslink station, but I'm not sure what the crowd control
implications would be.

But the access was said to be via Russell Square, surely?

As I said, maybe those reports were wrong. The front of the train is
roughly half way between the two stations according to the diagram on
the BBC site, so it would make sense to tackle the job from both ends.
The photo currently at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4666771.stm shows
emergency workers at King's Cross.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Colin Rosenstiel writes

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Basic shuttle 15m service Acton Town Rayners Lane to link in with the
Hyde Park Heathrow shuttle.

All Rayners Lane trains will have to go via the sidings at Rayners Lane
and Acton Town, thus reducing capacity.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:39:11 +0100, Steve Fitzgerald
] wrote:

In message ,
Colin Rosenstiel writes

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Basic shuttle 15m service Acton Town Rayners Lane to link in with the
Hyde Park Heathrow shuttle.

All Rayners Lane trains will have to go via the sidings at Rayners Lane
and Acton Town, thus reducing capacity.

So why not just run some trains through to Ruislip/Uxbridge, restoring
the usual capacity/frequency? Too much stock trapped on the wrong side
of the blockage?

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lid (asdf) wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:39:11 +0100, Steve Fitzgerald
] wrote:

In message ,
Colin Rosenstiel writes

Piccadilly Line: No service between Hyde Park Corner and Arnos Grove
and between Rayners Lane and Uxbridge

Why no Uxbridge service?

Basic shuttle 15m service Acton Town Rayners Lane to link in with
the Hyde Park Heathrow shuttle.

All Rayners Lane trains will have to go via the sidings at Rayners
Lane and Acton Town, thus reducing capacity.

So why not just run some trains through to Ruislip/Uxbridge, restoring
the usual capacity/frequency? Too much stock trapped on the wrong side
of the blockage?

Precisely. Isn't it easier to reverse at Uxbridge or is there a shortage
of stock and depot capacity?

Also, where is the C stock that can't reach Hammersmith being maintained?

--
Colin Rosenstiel