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London Congestion charge spreads westward in 2007
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:07:43 +0100, Ian Jelf wrote: Not quite the same thing I know but two jobs I've had over the years both specifically required the successful candidate to have a driving *licence*. not once in either job was I required to drive. -- Why quote-marks around "licence"? They were asterisks indicating emphasis, not quote-marks. Does Forte Agent misinterpret them? -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:34:40 GMT, Chris Tolley wrote: How do people as dumb as you achieve adiulthood? If you tell me what adiulthood is, I might be able to help you. Chris spotted a typo! Chris spotted a typo! Chris spotted... Among other things. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9680311.html (82 002 between duties at Coventry in 1977) |
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"Chris Tolley" wrote...
Paul Weaver wrote: forced to risk a dangerous night bus That's nonsense, and you know it. Night buses may be less than ideal, but they are not per se dangerous. We don't live in a US movie dystopia. You are starting with the unproven assumption that transport is necessary at all. People do not generally *have to* live so far from their place of employment. You are so right. If only all the £25K - £30K functionaries of central government and the London local authorities would shake off this morbid desire they all have to live in the shadow of Dagenham gasworks or Greenford "leisure" centre and just buy flats in the West End, the City and Kensington, eh? The main reason that there is transport congestion is that there are too many people on the move. They may have all sorts of reasons for choosing to live and work where they do, but in our society, that's exactly what it is in the vast majority of cases, a choice. (AIH, in my case, there isn't a choice. my house, is supplied by my employer, and is next to the building where I do a lot of my work.) And those who are not in such a fortunate position - what sort of cake do you suggest they should be let eat? |
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"JNugent" wrote in message ... "Chris Tolley" wrote... Paul Weaver wrote: forced to risk a dangerous night bus That's nonsense, and you know it. Night buses may be less than ideal, but they are not per se dangerous. We don't live in a US movie dystopia. You are starting with the unproven assumption that transport is necessary at all. People do not generally *have to* live so far from their place of employment. You are so right. If only all the £25K - £30K functionaries of central government and the London local authorities would shake off this morbid desire they all have to live in the shadow of Dagenham gasworks or Greenford "leisure" centre and just buy flats in the West End, the City and Kensington, eh? The main reason that there is transport congestion is that there are too many people on the move. They may have all sorts of reasons for choosing to live and work where they do, but in our society, that's exactly what it is in the vast majority of cases, a choice. (AIH, in my case, there isn't a choice. my house, is supplied by my employer, and is next to the building where I do a lot of my work.) And those who are not in such a fortunate position - what sort of cake do you suggest they should be let eat? Do you really consider it fortunate that when leaving your job you also have no option but to find somewhere else to live? |
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"Brimstone" wrote...
"JNugent" wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote... [ ... ] You are starting with the unproven assumption that transport is necessary at all. People do not generally *have to* live so far from their place of employment. You are so right. If only all the £25K - £30K functionaries of central government and the London local authorities would shake off this morbid desire they all have to live in the shadow of Dagenham gasworks or Greenford "leisure" centre and just buy flats in the West End, the City and Kensington, eh? ... too many people on the move. They may have all sorts of reasons for choosing to live and work where they do, but in our society, that's exactly what it is in the vast majority of cases, a choice. (AIH, in my case, there isn't a choice. my house, is supplied by my employer, and is next to the building where I do a lot of my work.) And those who are not in such a fortunate position - what sort of cake do you suggest they should be let eat? Do you really consider it fortunate that when leaving your job you also have no option but to find somewhere else to live? It all rather depends on the terms offered. It happens to more people than you might think - including my family when I was a boy. Many such workers nowadays buy a property of their own which they let out, in order to have a bolt-hole if they need it (modern landlord-tenant law quite properly allows for a tenancy to be determined within six months if the property is needed as a home for the owner). |
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London Congestion charge spreads westward in 2007
In message , Laurence Payne
writes On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:07:43 +0100, Ian Jelf wrote: Not quite the same thing I know but two jobs I've had over the years both specifically required the successful candidate to have a driving *licence*. not once in either job was I required to drive. -- Why quote-marks around "licence"? Because I was making the point that they only wanted a qualified driver, not necessarily someone with a car. -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:32:04 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote: Why quote-marks around "licence"? They were asterisks indicating emphasis, not quote-marks. Does Forte Agent misinterpret them? -- So they were. On this screen they're very similar. Sorry. |
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JNugent wrote:
"Colum Mylod" wrote in message The smart way to reduce congestion (not that this expansion has it, 5% of the area at most has congestion) is to close off zones and reduce flow. Classic example Hammersmith bridge. Close it and traffic "evaporates". Er... not quite. I remember a miserable afternoon spent trying to get from Barnes to Hanwell. It should have been a doddle using Hammersmith Bridge, but it was then closed for repairs (is it still closed, or closed again?). ... The traffic certainly does not "evaporate", even if the residents of the approach roads (some of whom seem very self-centred over this issue) think it does. It simply goes elsewhere (because it has to). No. Of course some goes elsewhere, but some evaporates too. People choose not to travel or not to drive. The stats show it. The effect increases over time as people move house or change jobs. Similarly most of the traffic that now occupies the M25 didn't exist before the motorway was built. Colin McKenzie |
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JNugent wrote:
And those who are not in such a fortunate position - what sort of cake do you suggest they should be let eat? ITYF it's brioche; cake is a mistranslation. If you are going to make a point, I think it might be best to make it without resorting to sarcasm. I'm happy to debate anything I said, and correct it if necessary, but you'll need to make a case. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9680391.html (Hauling cakes? 92 034 Kipling heads south through Longsight in 2004.) |
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