Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:48:52 on Thu,
22 Feb 2007, Graeme Wall remarked:
The Royal family don't travel by public transport because of the
security problems it would pose.

They travel on scheduled trains these days, as well as scheduled
airlines.

But not on tube trains or buses. Much easier to segregate them at
airports and main line stations.

So we agree that they do use public transport, just not all
varieties.

Not really, special arrangements are made, they get platform and
lounge space for themselves, the first class coach or section of
cabin is for their use only. That can hardly be sensibly referred
to as using public transport in the sense that everyone else does.

Graeme, do stop wriggling. It's not becoming.

It used to be possible for anyone with the necessary cash, to hire an engine
with a coach or two for a private journey, but I guess thats no longer the
case, as virtually none of the comic "railway" companies now have any
engines, apart from EWS, and coaches are getting as rare as hens' teeth,
especially on Last Great Worsen for journeys from Bath to Bristol......!

On 22 Feb, 02:00, "Mizter T" wrote:
Brian Watson wrote:
A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

--
Brian

I heard a bit of this whilst out for a jog this afternoon - if anyone
wants to listen again for the next week they can do so by following
this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/netwo...l?london/rober...

I've heard plenty of good stuff about London on Robert Elms' show when
I've tuned in, but the stories about secret Underground railways that
featured on this particular show was not good stuff, it was all a load
of cobblers!

There are undoubtedly some quasi-secret tunnels and installations in
London - for example the "Q-Whitehall" facility and "PINDAR" [1] - and
there are quite possibly a number of others - but there's no secret
Underground railway lines!

More about the aforementioned underground installations on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London

If you want to read about a Metro system that quite possibly does have
a secret line, as well as a supposed dual-purpose so it serves as a
link between military facilities, take a look at this unofficial site
about the Pyongyang Metro:
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/index.html


Dear God,152 messages! at least on google....?

The pyongyang metro link IS interesting.

Heapey near chorley?

I dont think the Box tunnel thread that I instigated did this well
hehe!

On 22 Feb, 02:00, "Mizter T" wrote:
Brian Watson wrote:
A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

--
Brian

I heard a bit of this whilst out for a jog this afternoon - if anyone
wants to listen again for the next week they can do so by following
this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/netwo...l?london/rober...

I've heard plenty of good stuff about London on Robert Elms' show when
I've tuned in, but the stories about secret Underground railways that
featured on this particular show was not good stuff, it was all a load
of cobblers!

There are undoubtedly some quasi-secret tunnels and installations in
London - for example the "Q-Whitehall" facility and "PINDAR" [1] - and
there are quite possibly a number of others - but there's no secret
Underground railway lines!

More about the aforementioned underground installations on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London

If you want to read about a Metro system that quite possibly does have
a secret line, as well as a supposed dual-purpose so it serves as a
link between military facilities, take a look at this unofficial site
about the Pyongyang Metro:
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/index.html


Dear God,152 messages! at least on google....?

The pyongyang metro link IS interesting.

Heapey near chorley?

I dont think the Box tunnel thread that I instigated did this well
hehe!

Charles Ellson wrote:

Hasn't the Moscow Metro got a few "unadvertised" sidings in the
vicinity of various government buildings ?

Moscow has a 4-line secret metro, longer than the public Metro....
allegedly.
I wouldn't be surprised if the stations are more ornate too!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Metro_2

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
In message
"Clive Coleman." wrote:

In message , Graeme Wall
writes
You are definitely giving your age away! IIRC Whirlybirds was late 50s
and the machines used were Bell 47G 2 seaters (includes pilot, paint
first before assembly). Similar machine to the Sioux used in MASH.
I remember "Whirlybirds", the copter looked like a bubble with a tail
made of girder type structure.

That's the one!

Main characters were Chuck Martin and PT Moore, ISTR, though who played them
I can't recall.

:-\
--
Brian

"Mizter T" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 22 Feb, 14:24, "Peter Ashby" wrote:
"Brian Watson" wrote in message

...

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

Well, Brian I have to say many thanks for livening up this news group !!

Pete

To which newsgroup do you refer - as he copied his post to three, as I
think have all (or at least most) of the other contributors.

I only copied them to ngs where the question was on-topic.

Thought we'd get immediate thread drift if I included a royal family group.
--
Brian

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:06:50 +0000 someone who may be Roland Perry
wrote this:-

It would probably be more secret. And it depends what the risk is. If it
was a dirty biological bomb in London, and a riot amongst the populace
who were being prevented from leaving for fear of infecting the rest of
the country, it could well be the best of the three options.

The purple powder incident in the Westminster parliament
demonstrated the difference between plans and reality. The bods
should have been kept in the chamber to prevent potential
contamination of others, but they left.

How one would prevent millions of people leaving London is beyond
me.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

On 22 Feb 2007 01:38:02 -0800 someone who may be "Mizter T"
wrote this:-

Part of the problem with all such talk of secret underground
installations is that many different facts, stories and rumours get
conflated together, and the end result can be something of a fantasy.

Indeed. Such places may be fondly thought of as some fantastic place
out of a film. However, the reality in the UK was generally of
secondhand buildings with not enough money spent on them. That is
clear from a study of subbrit.org.uk



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

In message
"Peter Masson" wrote:


"Graeme Wall" wrote

Even now certain people can have a special train run for them if they pay
the appropriate charge.

Anyone can, and the NRT (page 2651) even hints at how to go about it. It
suggests ten to fourteen weeks notice, whereas in Victorai times you could
approach the stationmaster, at least at a main station, and you'd be on
your way in your special train within the hour.


That's 'progress' for you!

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

In message
David Jackson wrote:

The message
from Graeme Wall contains these words:

Even now certain people can have a special train run for them if they
pay the
appropriate charge.

BTDT - at no extra charge! Not recently though, about 1976 IIRC.

We were taking a party of 20 students to the Lakes. Change at
Lancaster. When the Barrow train rolled in to the platform it was wedged
and the guard told us not to even try to get on, but there was a relief
train behind, and he would get the connection on to Ravenglass held for
us at Barrow. He was right about the relief, but he forgot about the
connection at Barrow, and when we got there the station was deserted.
The driver who brought us from Lancaster had a word with his guard, who
knew our story, went into an office, came back a few minutes later and
told us to get back on the train. We arrived in Ravenglass in plenty of
time to make our connection onto La'al Ratty.


Now that's service for you.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html