On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Mr Thant wrote:

On Jun 13, 3:09 pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
Reading between the lines at:

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/23

Which part are you looking at?

The list under "service pattern".

The list under "service pattern" includes:

# Bedford - London Bridge - Brighton (4tph)
# Luton - Elephant & Castle - Sutton, Wimbledon (4tph)
clockwise via Sutton then Wimbledon (2tph)
anticlockwise via Wimbledon then Sutton (2tph)

Which I believe is the same as the current basic service pattern,
although without seeing calling patterns it's hard to say.

I assumed as much.

Right - and all the added services are long-distance ones which are very
unlikely to call at Kentish Town, and won't go anyhwere near Elephant.

The "St Albans - Elephant & Castle - Sevenoaks" train is new, and
could conceivably call at both.

I assumed it would, given that existing St Albans trains are local, and
Sevenoaks is a similar sort of distance to Sutton. That service is 2 tph,
so we get 6 tph total local trains; the other 18 tph are express.

If you actually want to go from KX to Blackfriars, then i would certainly
agree that Thameslink is probably your best bet. However, if you want to
go from somewhere-north-of-KX to somewhere-south-of-Blackfriars, it
probably isn't part of your route of choice.

No. Especially if you're trying get to Kentish Town and you board a St
Albans express, which I've obviously never done.

Splendid, glad to hear it. Even if you had made that entirely hypothetical
mistake, it could be worse - you could have done so and then fallen
asleep ...

tom

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aesthetics of mathematical computations

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:25:46 -0700, D7666 wrote:

On Jun 12, 12:45 pm, Neil Williams wrote:

Muenchen Hbf


It was in fact München Hbf I was thinking of in relation to SPI (as I
shall now call St Pancras International) as the overall footprint is
similar - a deeper train shed in the centre with two wings one on each
side.

IIRC, Muenchen Hbf was originally 3 separate stations. Certainly one
wing is still known as the Holzkirchner bahnhof.

Another station with the same layout is Budapest Keleti Palyaudvar, as
I discovered when trying to change from a late running arrival to an
on-time starter there once. That cost me a serious on-train
supplement, and the conductor claimed not to speak English or German,
so I couldn't even argue with him about it!

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"Arthur Figgis" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 18:29:53 on Mon, 11
Jun 2007, Matt Wheeler remarked:
London Victoria with 3 sets ?
South Eastern Side, then, two sets of "south central" platforms, the
"middle" ones where Gatwick Express is located, and then the
high-numbered ones for longer distance Southern services to the coast
which are down past the escalators to Victoria Place.

No, you can stand at the entrance to the concourse and see all the
platforms at once, and they are numbers intuitively from left to right.

Pedantically, can you see them all from one point, or would either WHS
(Chatham side) or the escalators up (high numbers) be in the way?


Heading for any of them is simply a case of going a bit left, right or
straight ahead.

It gets more complicated if a Royal Train is leaving from platform 2 (or, in
the past, when the Night Ferry occupied that platform) and access to
platform 1 was from outside the station

Peter

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 16:11:50 on Mon,
11 Jun 2007, Sky Rider remarked:
On a side note the new Thameslink station will (like the station above)
be called St Pancras International.

Will there be any other station in the UK with four distinct sets of
platforms (not counting LUL platforms)?

Waterloo perhaps has three: Main concourse, East (or is that different
station altogether) and Eurostar (even post E* they might be entered
separately). Manchester Piccadilly has two, as does London Bridge; any
other offers for three or more?

Four for Stratford? The NLL platforms (for the time being), the Electric
Lines (with cross-platform interchange to the Central Line, the Main Line
platforms 9, 10, 10a, and the Lea Valley platform(s). And it has,
separately, Central Line, Jubilee Line, and DLR platforms.

peter