On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:08:55 +0100, wrote:

"Phil Wieland" wrote in message
...

So the only countries that currently have plastic notes all get the
Australian mint to print them for them, so take up of these types of
notes has been limited to smaller Pacific rim counties that don't have
their own currency printing facilities or don't mind 'out sourcing' it to
Australia.

Doesn't the Isle of Man have plastic notes? Are theirs Australian as
well?

Not to my knowledge and not in my experience as I was there not too long
ago.

They had them in the 1980s, their main fault was that the ink came
off. One party trick was IIRC to put a 50p note in the oven and shrink
it.

They were made from Tyvek which was phonetically close to the Manx
Gaelic (thie-veg) for toilet/lavatory, thus "Tyvek paper" equated
closely enough for critics to "toilet paper". Unfortunately, the
aforementioned fault made them unsuitable for emergency use as such.

See also:-
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...ymer-banknotes

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:56:27 +0100, "Peter Masson"
wrote:


"Charles Ellson" wrote

BoE notes have holograms integrated into the (made from rag IIRC)
paper so mixing materials doesn't seem to be a problem. With Braille I
suspect the difficulty lies with the inconstant thickness resulting or
the eventual flattening of the "dots". Punching holes in the notes is
probably not an option so relying on textural differences seems to be
the remaining option if the size and/or colour can't be changed.
Possibly a variation on the BoE holograms could provide textural
"dots" but how many different denominations of dollar note would need
to be identified ?

I'm not sure what features blind people use to distinguish BoE notes, but
apart from different size for different denominations, and the hologram,
they use raised printing. In the past the size of BoE notes have changed
(the white fivers were ginormous, and in the 1960s we got new small pound
notes - didn't we accuse Harold Wilson of shrinking the pound?), though I
suspect that changing the size of notes now would cause difficulties for
cash machines, vending machines that accept notes, etc.

ITYF the machines are now rather "international" and a change of any
of the notes accepted is now basically only a software matter for the
makers.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:35:36 +0100, Jeremy Double
wrote:

Neil Williams wrote:

In the UK it is also conventional that you notify your bank if you
intend on travelling abroad.

Since when? I never do.

I always do, always have and I recall that my bank (the Co-op)
recommend it!

Neil

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Put my first name before the at to reply.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:42 GMT, "Dik T. Winter"
wrote:

Ok, so I go into the shop, decide to buy something. Go home, wait until
Monday, phone my bank, and go back again to the shop?

I can telephone my bank 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 (or 366)
days a year. This I find quite good. I don't have to do it very
often, though, as most of my business can be carried out quite
satisfactorily on their web site.

But I can notify such a large purchase very easily in advance, as a
car (or anything else for GBP7000) is hardly going to be an impulse
purchase. I can still make the purchase. You can't, as you have a
hard limit. I find the situation I'm in vastly superior.

That is not done in the Netherlands at all. It is, in my opinion, a
strange procedure.

Not really. To go out of the UK requires a bit of planning (usually),
and it's a call that can be made very quickly, yet reduces the risk of
magstripe cloning substantially, especially as a magstripe-cloned card
from a Chip & PIN card is pretty useless in the UK now; you would
almost certainly have to go abroad to use it, so that's what happens.

Yes, but that would also be beyond the limit of my debit card.

That's a difference, clearly.

Neil

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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
wrote:

If the notes are from Scotland and bear the word sterling then they are
legal tender and I believe that retailers have to accept them. I have not
had a problem receiving Scottish notes or paying with them, beyond the
occasional odd look.

I have, however, had problems with Northern Irish notes - even from places
that don't give Scottish notes a second glance!


I'm glad you said that. I've always made the point when accepting
Scottish banknotes that they are not legal tender, often to be met with
a gobfull of abuse from know-all Scots. I keep meaning to get in a stock
of sterling notes from Northern Ireland, so if a note is required in
change I can give them, say, a a £5 or £10 sterling note issued by the
Bank of Ireland or the First Trust Bank to see whether that would
improve their humour.

I don't know where the idea comes from that Scottish notes are legal
tender because the bear the "sterling" because it simply isn't true -
even in Scotland!

Similarly, no Bank of England banknote has legal tender status in
Scotland either, the last one to have such status being the £1 B of E note.

http://www.siliconglen.com/Scotland/1_7.html

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Moving things in still pictures!

"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:08:55 +0100, wrote:

"Phil Wieland" wrote in message
...

So the only countries that currently have plastic notes all get the
Australian mint to print them for them, so take up of these types of
notes has been limited to smaller Pacific rim counties that don't have
their own currency printing facilities or don't mind 'out sourcing' it
to
Australia.

Doesn't the Isle of Man have plastic notes? Are theirs Australian as
well?

Not to my knowledge and not in my experience as I was there not too long
ago.

They had them in the 1980s, their main fault was that the ink came
off. One party trick was IIRC to put a 50p note in the oven and shrink
it.

They were made from Tyvek which was phonetically close to the Manx
Gaelic (thie-veg) for toilet/lavatory, thus "Tyvek paper" equated
closely enough for critics to "toilet paper". Unfortunately, the
aforementioned fault made them unsuitable for emergency use as such.

See also:-
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...ymer-banknotes

A Manx 50p note, you said? They had subunit banknotes? Interesting, indeed.
The only other nation that I know of with subunits in bankotes was the
50-cent note in the Bahamas. I don't doubt, however, that there are other
places in the world with similar notes.

I gave that information a glance and saw what was written about the Tyvek
notes. I also saw on Wikipedia that Plymer notes are currently in
circulation in areas close to Australia, such as Brunei, New Zealand,
Vietnam and Romania. But there is also something called Guardian polymer
notes, which are found in countries much further afield.

Apparently, Northern Ireland is one of the states that issue polymer
banknotes, though only for commemoratives.

"®i©ardo" wrote in message
...
Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
wrote:

I'm glad you said that. I've always made the point when accepting Scottish
banknotes that they are not legal tender, often to be met with a gobfull
of abuse from know-all Scots. I keep meaning to get in a stock of sterling
notes from Northern Ireland, so if a note is required in change I can give
them, say, a a £5 or £10 sterling note issued by the Bank of Ireland or
the First Trust Bank to see whether that would improve their humour.

I don't know where the idea comes from that Scottish notes are legal
tender because the bear the "sterling" because it simply isn't true - even
in Scotland!


That's actually happened, where one person pays in Scottish money and gets
change back in same denominatio.

If banks accept Scottish notes for deposit, is it really such a problem for
retailers to accept them from the general public, provided that they are not
the 1-pound notes?

wrote:

A Manx 50p note, you said? They had subunit banknotes? Interesting,
indeed. The only other nation that I know of with subunits in
bankotes was the 50-cent note in the Bahamas.

I guess you must be too young to remember the 10 shilling (= 50p) note in
Britain.

This was the 10s. note of 1955:
http://www.thebanknotestore.com/brit...and/p368cf.jpg

and this the rather beautiful design of 1966-70 before decimalisation
replaced it with the 50p coin:
http://www.collector-tower.com/bankn...bp_10s_66f.jpg
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

wrote

A Manx 50p note, you said? They had subunit banknotes? Interesting,
indeed.
The only other nation that I know of with subunits in bankotes was the
50-cent note in the Bahamas. I don't doubt, however, that there are other
places in the world with similar notes.

Bank of England 10 shilling notes were in regular use until 1970, when they
were superseded by the 50 pence coin. Smaller denomination Treasury notes
were printed during WW1, though not issued.

Peter

wrote:

A Manx 50p note, you said? They had subunit banknotes? Interesting, indeed.
The only other nation that I know of with subunits in bankotes was the
50-cent note in the Bahamas. I don't doubt, however, that there are other
places in the world with similar notes.

We had a ten-shilling note (half of one pound sterling) almost up to
decimalization in 1971 - I think it was withdrawn in favour of the 50p
coin in 1970.

Peter Beale