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How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt
wrote: Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50 euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them. Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason. Neil And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver), you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20 and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system (bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
In message , at 20:46:10 on
Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nobody remarked: Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50 euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them. Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason. And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver), you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20 and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system (bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for. In Metro Nottingham, in the UK Midlands, the biggest bus company only allows you to pay by exact money, but they accept notes (an all-day group ticket for 2 adults and 2 children is now £6 so you can pay by £5 note plus £1 coin). In fact by lucky chance almost all their tickets are currently an exact multiple of £1 at the moment (a one-person all-day ticket is £3, up from £2.70 which was always a pain to scrape together). You can buy pre-pay smart-cards at their city centre office only, and they'll happily accept credit cards or large notes there. -- Roland Perry |
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Matthew Geier wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:35:07 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Today, many of the better banks have "intelligent" systems that try to spot detect fraud based on usage patterns. If you rarely traveled out of your city/country or made large purchases, they might flag such transactions at the time of sale and either deny them, require the merchant call them, or even now call the customer's cell phone to verify. My bank definitely does this - last year just before a trip to Germany I bought a whole pile of advance purchase DB tickets on-line. A few days later I got a phone call from my bank asking about a number of transactions from Germany. The operator said she had noted down against my account that I was about to travel to Europe after I explained why I was buying DB tickets with my card. A few days later? That's not very helpful. Many years ago, I made a purchase of about USD 5000 at a computer store for work; while I was at the register waiting for the approval, my mobile phone rang and it was someone from AmEx calling to see if I was the one making the purchase. I confirmed everything was fine and within seconds the register got the approval and spit out the receipt for me to sign. Prior to that, I think the largest purchase I'd made on the card was USD 250, so I have to admit it was rather suspicious and can't blame them for wanting to be sure. When I first started traveling for work, my debit card would frequently come up with "Call Bank" when I first tried using it in a new city; I had to call in and tell them everything was okay, and then the charge would get approved on the next attempt -- and any others in that state or country until I charged something again back home. After a dozen or more trips in less than a year, that apparently became "normal" for my account and I stopped having to call in. That bit me eventually, because a few years later my card number got stolen and the crooks went on a five-state shopping spree; I got the money back, but it took a few weeks and dozens of police reports. If I didn't have a "pattern" of traveling all the time, their charges would have been denied immediately... S |
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Nobody wrote:
On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt wrote: Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50 euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them. Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason. And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver), you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well. Exact cash fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare). There are many reasons for this. The most obvious is that making change increases dwell time, which slows the bus down. The more important one, though, is that this way the driver does not handle any money; the fare goes directly from the passenger's hands into a lockbox, which reduces the risks of both driver theft and robbery. ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20 and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system (bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for. AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills. The problem with doing that is the change you get: a USD1.50 ticket here means twenty coins (18x$1, 2x25c) in change from a USD20 bill, and that's enough weight and bulk to seriously annoy you. As a result, I rarely see anyone using bills larger than $5 at our TVMs. S |
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Nobody wrote:
In article (Neil Williams) writes: I found a (Visa) debit card to be an extremely convenient way of paying just over gbp7,000 for a car a few years ago, certainly compared to the risk of cash or the cost and inconvenience of a banker's cheque. Also credit cards are limited in the maximum amount and I think those gbp7,000 would exceed my limit. Note moreover that in the Netherlands most people do not have credit cards for two of reasons: (1) It costs money to get a credit card Costs to "get" a credit card? (2) It is possible that a retailer asks you to pay more if you pay by credit card Pay more to use a cr card for a transaction? Lordy, in North America, both scenarios would lead to loud guffaws, and protests along the lines of.. "you want my business?". Those were exactly my reactions. In the US, while a few cards (notably AmEx) charge an annual fee, most don't and there are many where the bank pays _you_ for having and using the card (usually a rebate of 1-2% of purchases, if you pay your full balance each month). Store cards will often give you 3-12 months to pay with no interest. I get the impression that folks in Europe only get credit cards from the bank that they have checking/savings accounts with. That is rare in the US; most people get a debit/ATM card linked to their checking account, but get their credit cards from another bank and use checks to pay the bills. Debit cards are also relatively recent here, having been introduced in the 90s to fight retail check fraud, while credit cards were introduced decades earlier. It's also illegal for US merchants to charge _more_ for using a credit card, though they're allowed to offer a discount off the posted price if you pay with cash. Another major difference I'm sensing is transaction limits. My debit card has daily limits of USD 500 for ATM and USD 1000 for ATM+POS, which seems to be typical. In contrast, credit cards will generally let you charge up to your credit line in a single day, and that could be thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. S |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:39:45 -0500, Stephen Sprunk
wrote: Another major difference I'm sensing is transaction limits. My debit card has daily limits of USD 500 for ATM and USD 1000 for ATM+POS, which seems to be typical. In contrast, credit cards will generally let you charge up to your credit line in a single day, and that could be thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. In the UK, it's usual for there to be a daily limit for ATM (250 quid springs to mind for mine, and you can have them reduced - many students living in bad areas do this to reduce the impact if they get mugged and taken at knifepoint to the ATM), but it's not usual for there to be a POS hard-limit, just an unpublished and potentially variable one at which a transaction might be "referred" to confirm it is genuine. With credit cards, however, we're closer to the US - my main card pays me 0.5% to use it, and there is no annual fee. In the UK it is similarly unusual for there to be a monthly charge for a current account other than those with bundled premium services; some (like mine) even pay credit interest. The way the money is made is by way of charges and interest for those who overdraw their accounts or borrow on credit cards. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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In message , at 15:39:45 on Sat,
28 Jun 2008, Stephen Sprunk remarked: I get the impression that folks in Europe only get credit cards from the bank that they have checking/savings accounts with. I don't get that impression at all. Especially as many of the more aggressively marketed cards are not associated with conventional banks. (eg Egg, Goldfish, Capital One etc). -- Roland Perry |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:37:39 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 15:39:45 on Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Stephen Sprunk remarked: I get the impression that folks in Europe only get credit cards from the bank that they have checking/savings accounts with. I don't get that impression at all. Especially as many of the more aggressively marketed cards are not associated with conventional banks. (eg Egg,Citigroup Goldfish, Barclays Bank Capital One etc). |
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MIG wrote: On Jun 25, 10:54*pm, Peter Beale wrote: We had a ten-shilling note (half of one pound sterling) almost up to decimalization in 1971 - I think it was withdrawn in favour of the 50p coin in 1970. That's three people mentioning 1970, but surely the 50p came in in 1969? That's certainly when the bulk of the original ones were dated. The ten shilling note and the 50p piece co-existed for a little while. I remember at a primary school fete paying for an item with a 10/- note, and getting a 50p (plus some pence) in change. To this day I don't know whether the stallholder mistook the ten bob note for a pound or whether they assumed the then-new 50p was worth less than it was ! It must have been in late 1969 or early 1970 because I changed to secondary school in September of the latter year. Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 6th June 2008) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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"Nick Leverton" wrote in message
... In article , MIG wrote: On Jun 25, 10:54 pm, Peter Beale wrote: We had a ten-shilling note (half of one pound sterling) almost up to decimalization in 1971 - I think it was withdrawn in favour of the 50p coin in 1970. That's three people mentioning 1970, but surely the 50p came in in 1969? That's certainly when the bulk of the original ones were dated. The ten shilling note and the 50p piece co-existed for a little while. I remember at a primary school fete paying for an item with a 10/- note, and getting a 50p (plus some pence) in change. To this day I don't know whether the stallholder mistook the ten bob note for a pound or whether they assumed the then-new 50p was worth less than it was ! It must have been in late 1969 or early 1970 because I changed to secondary school in September of the latter year. Nick -- AFAIK, the 10-shilling note ceased to be legal tender in December 1971. |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:39:45 -0500, Stephen Sprunk
wrote: Another major difference I'm sensing is transaction limits. My debit card has daily limits of USD 500 for ATM and USD 1000 for ATM+POS, which seems to be typical. In contrast, credit cards will generally let you charge up to your credit line in a single day, and that could be thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. Ah, my "convenience card" (i.e. in my case, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce's ATM access and credit card) limits me to $1,000/day withdrawal from my chequing account, but also allows me to bill up to $11,000 in a "single transaction" to my credit card account. I guess I'm a trusted client... but I still do not have, nor want, debit card access. In the UK, it's usual for there to be a daily limit for ATM (250 quid springs to mind for mine, and you can have them reduced - many students living in bad areas do this to reduce the impact if they get mugged and taken at knifepoint to the ATM), but it's not usual for there to be a POS hard-limit, just an unpublished and potentially variable one at which a transaction might be "referred" to confirm it is genuine. With credit cards, however, we're closer to the US - my main card pays me 0.5% to use it, and there is no annual fee. In the UK it is similarly unusual for there to be a monthly charge for a current account other than those with bundled premium services; some (like mine) even pay credit interest. The way the money is made is by way of charges and interest for those who overdraw their accounts or borrow on credit cards. Neil |
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Nobody wrote:
On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt wrote: Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50 euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them. Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason. And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver), you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well. Exact cash fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare). There are many reasons for this. The most obvious is that making change increases dwell time, which slows the bus down. The more important one, though, is that this way the driver does not handle any money; the fare goes directly from the passenger's hands into a lockbox, which reduces the risks of both driver theft and robbery. ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20 and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system (bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for. AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills. The problem with doing that is the change you get: a USD1.50 ticket here means twenty coins (18x$1, 2x25c) in change from a USD20 bill, and that's enough weight and bulk to seriously annoy you. As a result, I rarely see anyone using bills larger than $5 at our TVMs. S Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot of that jingle-jangle! Given that Metro Vancouver's base fare is $2.50 (i.e. one zone) or $3.75/two zone, or $5/three zone, the change factor becomes relatively minimal. If those charges seem large, "fare saver" books and monthly passes offer substantial discounts. For example, a "ten-ticket" single-zone fare-saver booklet costs $19, or $1.90/trip and is totally transferrable within the one zone, or tri-zone system-wide after 6.30 p.m. and all day Sats/Suns/public holidays. An adult unrestricted daypass system-wise (all three zones but only available after 9.30 a.m.) is $9. Monthly fare cards by zone crossing for unlimited use are $73/99/136, with a flat concession card at $42 anywhere, anytime for oldies and kiddies. The transit system (three zones) stretches from Lions Bay in the far NW, to deep Langley in the far SE -- somewhere in the region of 75km or more -- and all the way south to the Ammurican border -- though it is concentrated in the "core" municipalities of the North Shore, Vancouver city, Burnaby, New Westminster, Tri-Cities (in the NE), Surrey/Delta, and Richmond. |
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And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus... AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well. Exact cash fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare). Exact change or season ticket or day ticket is about standard thought North America, as been for at least a decade. Same as single or perhaps two zone fares. And, of course, transfer tickets to enable your to change buses without having to pay again. -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:- http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ Latitude: 48° 25' North Longitude: 123° 21' West |
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"Nobody" wrote in message
... Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot of that jingle-jangle! Any truth to rumours that the Canadians plan to introduce a 5-dollar coin for general circulation? |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:37:39 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: I don't get that impression at all. Especially as many of the more aggressively marketed cards are not associated with conventional banks. (eg Egg, Goldfish, Capital One etc). I think what he said can be applied to mainland Europe, though. The UK seems to be half-way between the US and mainland Europe in banking terms, as it also is on many political issues. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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In message , at 23:47:11 on
Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Charles Ellson remarked: I get the impression that folks in Europe only get credit cards from the bank that they have checking/savings accounts with. I don't get that impression at all. Especially as many of the more aggressively marketed cards are not associated with conventional banks. (eg Egg,Citigroup Goldfish, Barclays Bank Yes, it is now owned by Barclays, but previously by Lloyds TSB, and it is not "associated" with Barclays current accounts, in the same way that Barclaycard is. And especially not when originally launched 15 years ago by the "Goldfish Bank". (The same is true of Morgan Stanley Cards; launched independently, transferred to Goldfish Bank, itself now owned by Barclays). Capital One etc). -- Roland Perry |
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Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot
of that jingle-jangle! Any truth to rumours that the Canadians plan to introduce a 5-dollar coin for general circulation? Yes. Seriously under consideration due to pressure from the vending machine lobby. -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:- http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ Latitude: 48° 25' North Longitude: 123° 21' West |
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In message , Nick Leverton
writes That's three people mentioning 1970, but surely the 50p came in in 1969? That's certainly when the bulk of the original ones were dated. The ten shilling note and the 50p piece co-existed for a little while. I remember at a primary school fete paying for an item with a 10/- note, and getting a 50p (plus some pence) in change. To this day I don't know whether the stallholder mistook the ten bob note for a pound or whether they assumed the then-new 50p was worth less than it was ! It must have been in late 1969 or early 1970 because I changed to secondary school in September of the latter year. At the time, I remember a lot of complaints that the new 50p and 2s/10p were too similar and could be confused, especially by older people. I think originally the only difference was that the 50p was very slightly larger and had the pointy sides whereas the 2s/10p was round. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
... In message , Nick Leverton writes That's three people mentioning 1970, but surely the 50p came in in 1969? That's certainly when the bulk of the original ones were dated. The ten shilling note and the 50p piece co-existed for a little while. I remember at a primary school fete paying for an item with a 10/- note, and getting a 50p (plus some pence) in change. To this day I don't know whether the stallholder mistook the ten bob note for a pound or whether they assumed the then-new 50p was worth less than it was ! It must have been in late 1969 or early 1970 because I changed to secondary school in September of the latter year. At the time, I remember a lot of complaints that the new 50p and 2s/10p were too similar and could be confused, especially by older people. I think originally the only difference was that the 50p was very slightly larger and had the pointy sides whereas the 2s/10p was round. -- As far as the 2s and 10p coins were concerned, would it have really been an issue? I mean, the 10p coin was the same size as the 2s coin and had the same value for about 10 years, if memory serves. |
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In message , at 14:13:18 on Sun, 29
Jun 2008, Steve Fitzgerald ] remarked: At the time, I remember a lot of complaints that the new 50p and 2s/10p were too similar and could be confused, especially by older people. I think originally the only difference was They had different writing on them too :) that the 50p was very slightly larger and had the pointy sides whereas the 2s/10p was round. And an unmilled vs milled edge, iirc. -- Roland Perry |
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 14:13:18 on Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Steve Fitzgerald ] remarked: At the time, I remember a lot of complaints that the new 50p and 2s/10p were too similar and could be confused, especially by older people. I think originally the only difference was They had different writing on them too :) that the 50p was very slightly larger and had the pointy sides whereas the 2s/10p was round. And an unmilled vs milled edge, iirc. And a 50p is not round. |
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On 10 Jun, 07:33, Martin Edwards wrote:
John @ home wrote: On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, 1506 wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? In preparation for decimalisation in 1971, London Transport moved all fares to be multiples of 6d, which had an exact conversion at 2.5p. And they were one of the last organisations to make widespread use of the half (new) penny before its abolition. In doing this, they were one of the few large organisations to be completely transparent about decimalisation. Most took the opportunity to introduce a hidden price increase, even other nationalised transport bodies. Scottish Omnibuses increased the fare from my home town to the nearest city from 2s 3d (just over 11p) to 13p. John The day before the switch, the price of most beer was 3/- per pint. The day of the switch, it was the equivalent price of 15p. The day after it was 16p, a swingeing rise at the time, though it pales into insignificance today. -- Corporate society looks after everything. All it asks of anyone, all it has ever asked of anyone, is that they do not interfere with management decisions. -From “Rollerball” You were done - in affluent NW Hampshire beer averaged at 2/4d a pint and went to 12p on decimalisation which equates to 28.8d. When I started drinking about 12 years before D-Day I paid 1/3d pint for Simmonds, 1/5d for Strongs and 1/6d for Marstons - that 3d difference was a lot of money at those prices. Pete Y |
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18 May 1965: "What is claimed to be the only robot railway ticket collector in the world began work at 7 a.m. at Acton Town Underground station, London. Automatic Bill, as the staff call the machine, swallows tickets like oysters, and coughs up the bad ones." Lemmy So that was the origin of Oyster cards - I often wondered! Pete Y |
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:32:14 +0100, Charles Ellson
wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:38:16 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:13:18 on Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Steve Fitzgerald ] remarked: At the time, I remember a lot of complaints that the new 50p and 2s/10p were too similar and could be confused, especially by older people. I think originally the only difference was They had different writing on them too :) that the 50p was very slightly larger and had the pointy sides whereas the 2s/10p was round. And an unmilled vs milled edge, iirc. And a 50p is not round. Ah, you seem to have said that already but without using the phrase "equilateral curve heptagon". ;-) |
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Pete wrote:
When I started drinking about 12 years before D-Day I paid 1/3d pint for Simmonds, 1/5d for Strongs and 1/6d for Marstons - that 3d difference was a lot of money at those prices. Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p11938601.html (45 132 at Alresford (Hampshire), 2 Sep 1999) |
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:39:45 -0500, Stephen Sprunk
wrote: I get the impression that folks in Europe only get credit cards from the bank that they have checking/savings accounts with. That's not now the case in the UK, though it probably was 20 years ago. In general it's much easier to pick and choose different financial products from different banks than was once the case. And there are now numerous credit cards promoted as stand-alone products, not linked to a particular bank account, whereas the earliest British credit cards - Access (MasterCard) and Barclaycard (Visa) - were marketed by banks to their existing customers. That is rare in the US; most people get a debit/ATM card linked to their checking account, but get their credit cards from another bank and use checks to pay the bills. I doubt many people in Britain still use cheques to pay their credit card bills, in preference to instructing bill payments by phone or Internet. Martin |
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"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
... Pete wrote: When I started drinking about 12 years before D-Day I paid 1/3d pint for Simmonds, 1/5d for Strongs and 1/6d for Marstons - that 3d difference was a lot of money at those prices. Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. -- Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". |
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I doubt many people in Britain still use cheques to pay their credit
card bills, in preference to instructing bill payments by phone or Internet. Haven't written a cheque in donkey's years. -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:- http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ Latitude: 48° 25' North Longitude: 123° 21' West |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:51:50 +0100, Martin Rich
wrote: I doubt many people in Britain still use cheques to pay their credit card bills, in preference to instructing bill payments by phone or Internet. I can't see cheques in the UK lasting another 10 years at all, to be honest. In the US, though, my understanding is that many people still get paid by cheque, which in the UK is almost completely unknown - direct bank transfer is the usual. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
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In message net.com,
at 09:56:56 on Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Roger T. remarked: Haven't written a cheque in donkey's years. You can't have a child doing school trips. Even putting those aside, I write probably ten cheques a month. -- Roland Perry |
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In message
wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: When I started drinking about 12 years before D-Day I paid 1/3d pint for Simmonds, 1/5d for Strongs and 1/6d for Marstons - that 3d difference was a lot of money at those prices. Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. -- Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". That's one foot three inches. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
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"Graeme Wall" wrote Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". That's one foot three inches. or one minute three seconds (of arc). Peter |
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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
... In message wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: When I started drinking about 12 years before D-Day I paid 1/3d pint for Simmonds, 1/5d for Strongs and 1/6d for Marstons - that 3d difference was a lot of money at those prices. Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. -- Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". That's one foot three inches. -- Indeed it is, but I believe that such quotation marks are used for other things as well. |
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$2 bills have a worse problem, incidentally. Many people have never
seen one in their entire lives -- or even know they exist -- and they look different than all the other bills. Many clerks won't take them without checking with a manager; if the manager hasn't seen one before (which is fairly rare -- they _are_ still in circulation), they may refuse to accept it even though the potential loss from a counterfeit is negligible. I had trouble enough trying to get rid of some $1 coins that an airport vending machine gave me some years back. Not really knowing the US monetary system and being used to a £1 coin, I was most bemused to find that nearly every shop I tried to spend it in ending up examing it, raising eyebrows and in one case, calling over a supervisor. If they still use the $1 note, why have a coin as well? Were they an experiment? Are they still minted? -- --- This message has come to an end. Please exit to your left. --- |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
"Lew 1" wrote in message
... I had trouble enough trying to get rid of some $1 coins that an airport vending machine gave me some years back. Not really knowing the US monetary system and being used to a £1 coin, I was most bemused to find that nearly every shop I tried to spend it in ending up examing it, raising eyebrows and in one case, calling over a supervisor. Ignorance? If they still use the $1 note, why have a coin as well? Were they an experiment? Are they still minted? They are certainly still being minted. They started a dollar-coin minting campaign about a year ago with all the deceased US presidents, as a matter of fact. There have been US 1-dollar coins in circulation synonymously with the 1-dollar note on and off for the past 30 years at least. There were the Eisenhower dollars of the 1970s, which are roughly the size of a 5-pound coin. Then, in the late 1970s/early 1980s, they started minting the Susan B. Anthony dollars. I understood that this was to be a real effort to eliminate the dollar banknote, though the coins' size was too close to a 25-cent piece, which created confusion. AIUI, the SBAs were never really popular, though they were useful in vending machines. Then came the Sacagawea dollars of the late 1990s, which are larger than SBAs. I don't know how popular those coins are or not, but as long as the dollar note continues to exist in circulation, I don't think that they are going to gain that much popularity. I am also guessing that coins from the presidential dollar campaign will mostly be hoarded, rather than used in circulation, as long as the dollar-note exists. I have heard that one reason they don't do away with the dollar note with its image of George Washington is psychological as the 1-dollar note is probably one of the foremost symbols of the United States. Take that away and what do you have, so the thinking might go. This could have adverse effects. I have also found myself wondering why the Federal Reserve does not issue a multi-sided coin, if they were really serious about eradicating the dollar note. This would avoid confusion with other coins and not require it to be so big, as was the case with the Eisenhower or Liiberty dollars. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... In message wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote in message ... Pete wrote: When I started drinking about 12 years before D-Day I paid 1/3d pint for Simmonds, 1/5d for Strongs and 1/6d for Marstons - that 3d difference was a lot of money at those prices. Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. -- Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". That's one foot three inches. -- Indeed it is, but I believe that such quotation marks are used for other things as well. As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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