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How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:42:27 +0100, Graeme Wall wrote
Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". That's one foot three inches. Indeed it is, but I believe that such quotation marks are used for other things as well. As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. I was also around during the pre-decimal era and only ever remember seeing £SD written as 3s 6d or 3/6 |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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Stimpy wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:42:27 +0100, Graeme Wall wrote Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your prices had been 1s 4d, then the way you wrote them would have indicated a farthing. Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". That's one foot three inches. Indeed it is, but I believe that such quotation marks are used for other things as well. As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. I was also around during the pre-decimal era and only ever remember seeing £SD written as 3s 6d or 3/6 3/6d had a certain vogue in shops that traditionally had a creative way with apostrophe's. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Stephen Sprunk writes:
AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills. The problem with doing that is the change you get ... In Toronto you can buy a single token (for the equivalent of a cash fare, $2.75) from a vending machine, but you have to pay in coins, so change is not an issue. (I'm not sure whether they give change from a $3 or $4 payment -- I never pay single fares and it never occurred to me to think about it until now. When the present machines were brought into use, the cash fare was $2, so this was not an issue.) The machines do take $20 bills, but what you get out is 8 tokens and $2 in change. Similarly, a $10 bill gives you 4 tokens and $1. The effective rate of $2.25 is equivalent to the 5 tokens for $11.25 that you can buy in a store or from a human subway-station fare collector. -- Mark Brader, Toronto "The walls have hearsay." -- Fonseca & Carolino |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Graeme Wall wrote:
As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. I suppose it could, if ° was the sign for a pound (which of course it isn't) as used for degrees/minutes/seconds. Peter Beale |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Stimpy wrote:
I was also around during the pre-decimal era and only ever remember seeing £SD written as 3s 6d or 3/6 But when you got into the pounds there were more possibilities: £1/3/6, £1 3s 6d, £1-3-6, £1:3:6 etc. (also 23/6 from time to time, not least on railway tickets - in the new issue of RM there is a picture of a ticket for the "15 guinea special", with the price shown as "315s."(. Peter Beale |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:34:05 +0100, Peter Beale wrote
Stimpy wrote: I was also around during the pre-decimal era and only ever remember seeing £SD written as 3s 6d or 3/6 But when you got into the pounds there were more possibilities: £1/3/6, £1 3s 6d, £1-3-6, £1:3:6 etc. Indeed... that's why I didn't go there :-) |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:51:50 +0100, Martin Rich wrote: I doubt many people in Britain still use cheques to pay their credit card bills, in preference to instructing bill payments by phone or Internet. I can't see cheques in the UK lasting another 10 years at all, to be honest. In the US, though, my understanding is that many people still get paid by cheque, which in the UK is almost completely unknown - direct bank transfer is the usual. In the US, it takes a couple pay cycles to get direct deposit set up, though most white-collar workers do it immediately upon changing jobs. It's not as common in service-industry or blue-collar jobs, where folks may even be paid in cash each week or even each day; that appears to be mainly a cultural thing, though the banks are trying their best to change that by offering "free" accounts only to people with direct deposit. Still, many folks resist that, for reasons I've never understood myself. Also, many smaller employers simply don't offer it because their banks charge extra fees for the service (in addition to setup fees to use it at all), whereas checks are free. S |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Dik T. Winter wrote:
In article (Neil Williams) writes: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:51:50 +0100, Martin Rich wrote: I doubt many people in Britain still use cheques to pay their credit card bills, in preference to instructing bill payments by phone or Internet. I can't see cheques in the UK lasting another 10 years at all, to be honest. In the US, though, my understanding is that many people still get paid by cheque, which in the UK is almost completely unknown - direct bank transfer is the usual. I can't remember ever having seen a cheque used in the Netherlands. But I know that cashing them can be a problem, so much so that cashing a cheque that I received for a refund from the US would cost me more than its value. Cashing checks can be expensive in the US as well; the normal solution is to deposit it in your own account because that's free. If you don't have an account, you have to go to the issuing bank and pay a small fee or (if it's a payroll check) go to a check-cashing store and pay a large fee (only logical if the check is from a bank that's not local or not open when you need the money). Checks are, unfortunately, something you have to deal with in the US. They're the default method of payment for nearly everything (except, lately, for small to medium retail purchases), though more and more places are starting to accept debit cards. Many non-retail transactions simply can't be done with plastic, though that's gradually changing, and the ones that can often have a "convenience fee" for using a credit or debit card. Also, as noted, many debit cards have daily limits that make using them to pay some things impossible. That leaves credit cards, but that opens a whole 'nother can of worms, and assumes the person has good enough credit to get one (and it isn't maxed out, as many people's are). S |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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Graeme Wall wrote: In message wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote in message ... Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. Though admittedly I was only 12 on D-Day, I don't remember ever seeing or learning the 1'3" format Hounslow3 mentions. I'm certain that " was never used for pence. On greengrocers' signs prices might have been shown as 1'3 per lb, for instance, but the triangular apostrophe-like thing was really a stylised form of the diagonal stroke (solidus I think it's called ?) in 1/3. On the other hand as far as I recall, prices like 1/3d were not uncommon in shop windows, even though not technically correct. Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 6th June 2008) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Stephen Sprunk schrieb: In the US, it takes a couple pay cycles to get direct deposit set up, though most white-collar workers do it immediately upon changing jobs. It's not as common in service-industry or blue-collar jobs, where folks may even be paid in cash each week or even each day; that appears to be mainly a cultural thing, though the banks are trying their best to change that by offering "free" accounts only to people with direct deposit. Still, many folks resist that, for reasons I've never understood myself. They probably fear, that the administrative effort for some extra would be too high for the employer. In blue collar jobs paid weekly over the table, it is custom in many companies, that some extra bills go over the table in case of some extra effort. I don't think, that anybody pays taxes on it, and in fact, the bookkeeping costs for this might get higher as the sums involved. That would also be the time, to cash in the small sums, which you might have spent buying other people's help during the week. On construction sites, that happens more often than you might think. Hans-Joachim -- San Joaquin Daylight, Tehachapi Loop, 1971 http://www.railpictures.net/images/d...1189371600.jpg |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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Graeme Wall wrote: In message wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote in message ... Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. Though admittedly I was only 12 on D-Day, I don't remember ever seeing or learning the 1'3" format Hounslow3 mentions. I'm certain that " was never used for pence. On greengrocers' signs prices might have been shown as 1'3 per lb, for instance, but the triangular apostrophe-like thing was really a stylised form of the diagonal stroke (solidus I think it's called ?) in 1/3. On the other hand as far as I recall, prices like 1/3d were not uncommon in shop windows, even though not technically correct. I'd tend to agree from memory as a nipper in New Zealand, as well... though after 41 years (as of Thurday 10 July -- DC Day's anniversary) who's to say what was exactly on signs! |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:13:12 GMT, "Dik T. Winter"
wrote: I can't remember ever having seen a cheque used in the Netherlands. But I know that cashing them can be a problem, so much so that cashing a cheque that I received for a refund from the US would cost me more than its value. On the other hand, you won't find an "acceptgiro" in use in the UK. That probably explains the lower use of cheques in NL, apart from the low limit from the old days of NLG300 for the then Eurocheques? -- Old anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com appears broke So back to cmylod at bigfoot dot com |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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Graeme Wall wrote: In message wrote: "Chris Tolley" wrote in message ... Yes, but you appear to have forgotten the convention for writing the amounts down. It would be either "1s 3d" or "1/3". If one of your Thought it would also have been set off as 1' 3". As someone else has pointed out, for angles, but not, in my experience, for monetary values. Remember the default was 3 values, pounds, shilling and pence, the use of ' and " wouldn't allow that. Though admittedly I was only 12 on D-Day, I don't remember ever seeing or learning the 1'3" format Hounslow3 mentions. I'm certain that " was never used for pence. On greengrocers' signs prices might have been shown as 1'3 per lb, for instance, but the triangular apostrophe-like thing was really a stylised form of the diagonal stroke (solidus I think it's called ?) in 1/3. On the other hand as far as I recall, prices like 1/3d were not uncommon in shop windows, even though not technically correct. I'd tend to agree from memory as a nipper in New Zealand, as well... though after 41 years (as of Thurday 10 July -- DC Day's anniversary) who's to say what was exactly on signs! |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
"Colum Mylod" wrote On the other hand, you won't find an "acceptgiro" in use in the UK. Girobank used to offer this sort of service - to pay money to someone you filled in and signed a Transfer slip, including the account number of the account you wanted to credit, and sent it to Girobank. It never really caught on, except for payments e.g. to utilities, who sent with their bill a Transfer slip, filled in with their account number, and you had to complete it including your account number of the account to be debited. In any event it could only be used when both parties maintained Girobank accounts. Apart from that most people used Girobank as a normal cheque account, and since Girobank has been taken over by Alliance & Leicester the Transfer slip system has been abolished. Peter |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Jul 4, 7:57*am, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"Colum Mylod" wrote On the other hand, you won't find an "acceptgiro" in use in the UK. Girobank used to offer this sort of service - to pay money to someone you filled in and signed a Transfer slip, including the account number of the account you wanted to credit, and sent it to Girobank. It never really caught on, except for payments e.g. to utilities, who sent with their bill a Transfer slip, filled in with their account number, and you had to complete it including your account number of the account to be debited. In any event it could only be used when both parties maintained Girobank accounts. Apart from that most people used Girobank as a normal cheque account, and since Girobank has been taken over by Alliance & Leicester the Transfer slip system has been abolished. I actually used a Girobank transfer slip to pay in a shop a couple of times (Woolworths I think). They looked at me a bit oddly, but it was accepted and went through OK. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
"Nobody" wrote in message ... Years ago when the Canadian dollar was trading in the region of 70-75 US cents, the finance chair of our (apartment) strata corporation began separating out Yankee quarters from the cash inserted in the complex's laundry machines. She'd amassed a considerable number of 25-cent pieces (replacing the value of submitted Ammurican quarters with equivalent Canadian two-bit pieces so the corporation's books balanced). She knew I was about to visit Seattle, and asked if I'd cart the loot across the line and Make A Profit by exchanging the US quarters for Green Back paper. Any bank I approached, refused to accept the large numbers of coins as I wasn't/we weren't a customer. I finally found one that accepted the metal, although at a "discount" to handle the loose change... so I ended up basically with paper/bills worth the same "face value" of the original mass of coins in Canadian dollars anyway. The problem was that I could barely pick up the money and had to put it in a large rucksack to get it there. I got over £80 even with the ripoff. But it would require about 9 million people to do something similar to add up to the three quarters of a (presumably American) billion suggested. I am not one of them any more. Next time, roll them and take them to a grocery store. . |
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