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How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Hello everybody,
do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? Any help appreciated, thanks, Filippo |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Jun 9, 9:33*am, nessuno2001 wrote:
Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? When I started work on Regent St in 1969 the Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus fare was 3d. That would be just over 1p in currency or USD0.02. It cost twice as much to go from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, i.e. 6d of 2.5 new pence. That would be USD0.05 nowadays. Soon after I started work there was a fare increase that doubled the Waterloo to Piccadilly cost. Needless to say that I find the present day London fare to be extortionate. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, 1506 wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? In preparation for decimalisation in 1971, London Transport moved all fares to be multiples of 6d, which had an exact conversion at 2.5p. And they were one of the last organisations to make widespread use of the half (new) penny before its abolition. In doing this, they were one of the few large organisations to be completely transparent about decimalisation. Most took the opportunity to introduce a hidden price increase, even other nationalised transport bodies. Scottish Omnibuses increased the fare from my home town to the nearest city from 2s 3d (just over 11p) to 13p. John |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
1506 wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? When I started work on Regent St in 1969 the Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus fare was 3d. That would be just over 1p in currency or USD0.02. It cost twice as much to go from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, i.e. 6d of 2.5 new pence. That would be USD0.05 nowadays. Soon after I started work there was a fare increase that doubled the Waterloo to Piccadilly cost. So that's 2.5p at a time when a postage stamp for a letter was about the same. Needless to say that I find the present day London fare to be extortionate. By the postage prices index we should be paying less than 50p for a short hop. Hmm. How much would it have been from Waterloo to Earl's Court? After all, you can get that far for a minimum Z1 fare now. Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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, "John @ home" writes On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, 1506 wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? In preparation for decimalisation in 1971, London Transport moved all fares to be multiples of 6d, which had an exact conversion at 2.5p. And they were one of the last organisations to make widespread use of the half (new) penny before its abolition. In doing this, they were one of the few large organisations to be completely transparent about decimalisation. Most took the opportunity to introduce a hidden price increase, even other nationalised transport bodies. Scottish Omnibuses increased the fare from my home town to the nearest city from 2s 3d (just over 11p) to 13p. Indeed they did. I have a copy of a Bristol Omnibus leaflet advertising Day Tickets at: "7/- (40p from February 1971)". -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:50:58 -0700 (PDT), 1506
wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33*am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? You paid by the mile not the number of stops. When I started work on Regent St in 1969 the Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus fare was 3d. That would be just over 1p in currency or USD0.02. It cost twice as much to go from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, i.e. 6d of 2.5 new pence. That would be USD0.05 nowadays. Soon after I started work there was a fare increase that doubled the Waterloo to Piccadilly cost. Needless to say that I find the present day London fare to be extortionate. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
"John @ home" wrote In preparation for decimalisation in 1971, London Transport moved all fares to be multiples of 6d, which had an exact conversion at 2.5p. British Rail did the same, one exception being platform tickets which were 4d, IIRC, before decimalisation, and became 2p on decimalisation. BR went decimal a day earlier than the national D-day, so for the price of an Oxford platform ticket (the last time I've ever bought one) I had in my hand the change for a shilling of a 1p and a 2p coin a day before most people could get hold of them. Peter |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
John @ home wrote:
On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, 1506 wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? In preparation for decimalisation in 1971, London Transport moved all fares to be multiples of 6d, which had an exact conversion at 2.5p. And they were one of the last organisations to make widespread use of the half (new) penny before its abolition. In doing this, they were one of the few large organisations to be completely transparent about decimalisation. Most took the opportunity to introduce a hidden price increase, even other nationalised transport bodies. Scottish Omnibuses increased the fare from my home town to the nearest city from 2s 3d (just over 11p) to 13p. John The day before the switch, the price of most beer was 3/- per pint. The day of the switch, it was the equivalent price of 15p. The day after it was 16p, a swingeing rise at the time, though it pales into insignificance today. -- Corporate society looks after everything. All it asks of anyone, all it has ever asked of anyone, is that they do not interfere with management decisions. -From “Rollerball” |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 9 Jun, 20:50, 1506 wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:33*am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? Dunno about the underground but in 1958, Bristol - Darlington, £2-0-0d return. (Forces rates). |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Peter Masson wrote:
BR went decimal a day earlier than the national D-day, so for the price of an Oxford platform ticket (the last time I've ever bought one) I had in my hand the change for a shilling of a 1p and a 2p coin a day before most people could get hold of them. Example coinage was on sale for a couple of years before it could be spent. A plastic wallet labelled "Britain's First Decimal Coins". Anyone could get a set. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683781.html (150 138 at Stalybridge, 26 Feb 2001) |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the
early '60s? Not fully on-topic, but I remember pretty well that the price of the first Milan Underground ticket (flat fare) in 1964 was 100 lire. This was a huge difference with respect to normal bus and tram tickets (single rides) which were 35 lire. And in fact one took the underground only when strictly necessary ... I still remember taking a bus to school from a place some 600 m from where I lived instead that 3 underground stops (when raining, with good weather I walked). In 1970 the prices were unified in the present "hourly tariff" (one ticket for 60 minutes, as many changes as you like but only one trip on the underground). Now it is one ticket for 75 minutes, and costs 1 euro. In doing this, they were one of the few large organisations to be completely transparent about decimalisation. Most took the opportunity to introduce a hidden price increase, We had a similar case with the introduction of the euro. Before that the ticket costed 1500 lire. There were law disposition forbidding excessive price increases with the transition lira-euro. Therefore ATM raised the ticket from 1500 to 1900 lire on December 29. When two days later the euro came, the "actual" increase was just from 1900 lire to 1936.27 lire (1 euro). -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- is a newsreading account used by more persons to avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected. Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
"Beyond Caring" wrote in message ... On 9 Jun, 20:50, 1506 wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? A child's ticket from Westminster to New Cross in 1962/3 ish was 10d (approx 4p) - sticks in my mind because it was the first ticket I ever bought on my own! adrian |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 10 Jun., 10:11, Giovanni Drogo
wrote: We had a similar case with the introduction of the euro. Before that the ticket costed 1500 lire. There were law disposition forbidding excessive price increases with the transition lira-euro. Therefore ATM raised the ticket from 1500 to 1900 lire on December 29. When two days later the euro came, the "actual" increase was just from 1900 lire to 1936.27 lire (1 euro). On the barcelona Metro there are signs saying things such as the penalty for not having a cvaild ticket is 30 Euros and 5 cents. No doubt the result of some very fair currency conversion. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Thank you for all the answers, very helpful.
Filippo |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 10 Jun, 09:24, "Adrian Clarkson"
wrote: "Beyond Caring" wrote in message ... On 9 Jun, 20:50, 1506 wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? A child's ticket from Westminster to New Cross in 1962/3 ish was 10d (approx 4p) - sticks in my mind because it was the first ticket I ever bought on my own! adrian In the late sixties a day return from Northwood Hills to South Kensington was 7s 6d, child 3s 9d, total for mum plus 2 going to the museums, 15 bob. These days the adult fares (with oyster) come to £4 off-peak, and children free or £1, total £6. Strikes me as a significant reduction in real terms, but then it's a lot more than a short hop. Stuart J |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
1506 wrote:
I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? When I started work on Regent St in 1969 the Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus fare was 3d. That would be just over 1p in currency or USD0.02. It cost twice as much to go from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, i.e. 6d of 2.5 new pence. That would be USD0.05 nowadays. Needless to say that I find the present day London fare to be extortionate. How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? -- Simon Brighton ex-Westbury, ex-Aberystwyth |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 10 Jun, 11:08, "sweller" wrote:
When I started work on Regent St in 1969 the Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus fare was 3d. That would be just over 1p in currency or USD0.02. It cost twice as much to go from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, i.e. 6d of 2.5 new pence. That would be USD0.05 nowadays. Needless to say that I find the present day London fare to be extortionate. How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? This site is absolutely excellent for asking this kind of question: http://www.measuringworth.com/ukcompare/ So the 7s 6d fare from Northwood to South Ken in 1968 is worth GBP4.35 in 2006 based on RPI; GBP8.53 based on average earnings (because we're paid twice as much now as we were then, after inflation); and GBP9.87 as a share of GDP (because capital gains have risen even more than wages). The 3d fare, meanwhile, is worth 15p based on RPI or 29p based on average earnings. The discrepancy in short-hop centre fares compared with long distance fares in the 1960s seems almost unimaginable - especially given that it's precisely those short-hop centre journeys where the system is crowded. Also interesting is the GBP2 forces return from Bristol to Darlington in 1958. That's GBP32 in 1996 money based on RPI, GBP82 based on average earnings, or GBP96 based on GDP. The SVR fare with Forces Railcard today is actually GBP69. -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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from Chris Tolley contains these words: Example coinage was on sale for a couple of years before it could be spent. A plastic wallet labelled "Britain's First Decimal Coins". Anyone could get a set. The banks were happy to supply schools with some 1p and 2p coins ahead of the change-over so that the children could get familiar with the new coins. I pushed my luck with the local TSB and got hold of a tenner's worth about a month before D-day, the next step being to invite parents and grandparents into the classroom to share in the children's experience. I had a *very* full classroom each morning* for a couple of weeks - and I still had a tenner's worth of coins at the end! [* We had to do some real sums in the afternoons!] -- Dave, Frodsham |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 10 Jun, 12:46, John B wrote:
So the 7s 6d fare from Northwood to South Ken in 1968 is worth GBP4.35 in 2006 based on RPI; GBP8.53 based on average earnings (because we're paid twice as much now as we were then, after inflation); and GBP9.87 as a share of GDP (because capital gains have risen even more than wages). Apologies for self-follow-up - for the avoidance of doubt, the GBP9.87 figure and other references to GDP in the previous post are GDP *per capita*. Measuring price changes as a % of absolute GDP would be pretty meaningless... -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Adrian Clarkson wrote on Tue, 10
Jun 2008: "Beyond Caring" wrote in message ... On 9 Jun, 20:50, 1506 wrote: On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? A child's ticket from Westminster to New Cross in 1962/3 ish was 10d (approx 4p) - sticks in my mind because it was the first ticket I ever bought on my own! The Times digital archive, which more public libraries are making available online to members, is a good data source. Several mentions of fare increases during the sixties. This one dated 6 June 1963: "The increases do not affect the 3d., 6d., 9d. and 1s. bus and Underground fares, and the new scale will mean that London fares will generally be at the rate of 3d. a mile up to seven miles, instead of four miles as at present, with a lower charge for journeys over seven miles." .... "There will be no change in the cost of off-peak tickets on the Underground but they will be extended to operate from 110 suburban stations instead of 54, and will be issued on Saturdays and Sundays as well as weekdays." By 1965 the single fares were up to 4d a mile for the first 3 miles, plus 3d a mile for miles 4-10. Above that, fares were raised by a flat 3d. Some possibly more interesting stuff I came across included: 18 May 1965: "What is claimed to be the only robot railway ticket collector in the world began work at 7 a.m. at Acton Town Underground station, London. Automatic Bill, as the staff call the machine, swallows tickets like oysters, and coughs up the bad ones." 10 Dec 1965:"Two main methods to reduce congestion are being planned -- to reduce the number of parking meters and to cut down actual parking space available..." "The "special measures" which the Minister said were being considered for freeing London's roads from congestion include charges on vehicles for using the roads. The various systems of road pricing or a "congestion tax" on which the Smeed committee reported last year is being examined by a working party of experts." And on 11 January 1963: five paragraphs on page 5 about the case of a "young woman secretary" from Richmond who was fined £2 with £2 costs for travelling on the Underground without having paid her fare. An LTE Inspector testified that even the Archbishop of Canterbury would be asked to pay again if he could not produce a ticket on exit. -- Lemmy |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Lemmy wrote:
18 May 1965: "What is claimed to be the only robot railway ticket collector in the world began work at 7 a.m. at Acton Town Underground station, London. Automatic Bill, as the staff call the machine, swallows tickets like oysters, and coughs up the bad ones." Nice word choice. -- Michael Hoffman |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
I seem to recall that the post office put second class mail up from 4d to
2.5p (ie 6d) and first class mail up from 5d to 3p (7.2d) and claimed that it wasnt really a price increase. A 50% increase in the price of a second class letter certainly sounded like one to me! |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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"sweller" wrote: 1506 wrote: I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? When I started work on Regent St in 1969 the Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus fare was 3d. That would be just over 1p in currency or USD0.02. It cost twice as much to go from Waterloo to Oxford Circus, i.e. 6d of 2.5 new pence. That would be USD0.05 nowadays. Needless to say that I find the present day London fare to be extortionate. How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 10 Jun, 17:39, Graeme Wall wrote: In message "sweller" wrote: (snip) How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. If you know where to go you can get yourself a pint for something like £1.80. And it's not the establishment with faux-marble bar counters. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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Mizter T wrote: On 10 Jun, 17:39, Graeme Wall wrote: In message "sweller" wrote: (snip) How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. If you know where to go you can get yourself a pint for something like £1.80. And it's not the establishment with faux-marble bar counters. You can in Southampton as well, but not generally in Central London (bar Weatherspoons). -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
From Whitakers Almanack 1967 p600:
London Underground Railway Return Fares Tott Ct Rd Liv St to Tower Hill Picc Circus to Morden Ealing Bdy to Putney Bdg to Cockfosters Jan 1938 1/2 1/2 1/2 1/6 1953 2/0 2/4 1/10 2/6 1954 2/2 2/6 2/0 2/8 1956 2/4 2/8 2/2 2/10 1957 2/10 3/0 2/8 3/4 1958 3/0 3/4 2/8 3/8 1959 3/4 3/8 2/8 3/10 1960 3/6 3/10 2/10 4/0 1963 4/0 4/4 3/4 4/8 1964 4/8 5/0 3/10 5/4 Oct 1965 5/0 5/4 4/0 5/4 1966 5/6 5/10 4/6 6/2 The fare for each of the above journeys rose by 2d between January and June 1962. There's also tables of sample SR (Southern & BR(S)) 2nd class return fares and Green Line Return Fares for the same period too. Chris nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? I found that a bus ticket for one stop was one and a half penny, and a three-pence for about three or four stops in suburbs such as Edgware or Stanmore. Is it right? Any help appreciated, thanks, Filippo |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Graeme Wall wrote:
Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. Over in Kirkwall a pint of Guinness has been about three pounds for a couple of months now. -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:08:50 +0100, "sweller"
wrote: How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? I suspect the OP may have been referring to the gbp4 paper ticket, which should probably be thought of in the same way as a charge for the use of a credit card set at a deliberately high level to put people off paying in that way. Neil -- Neil Williams Put my first name before the at to reply. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On 10 Jun, 19:53, Graeme Wall wrote: In message Mizter T wrote: On 10 Jun, 17:39, Graeme Wall wrote: In message "sweller" wrote: (snip) How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. If you know where to go you can get yourself a pint for something like £1.80. And it's not the establishment with faux-marble bar counters. You can in Southampton as well, but not generally in Central London (bar Weatherspoons). May I merrily spread the good word of Samuel Smith's Brewery. The beer may all be brewed in Yorkshire but central London plays host to many of Sam Smith's distinctively convivial hostelries - traditional pubs, no music, decent fellow drinkers, a lovely pint, and minimal damage to your wallet. 'Tis a winner. If it's your round, this is the place to buy it! List of all their pubs in London and elsewhe http://www.beerintheevening.com/chai...html/chain/12/ More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Smith_Brewery |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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"Bruce Fletcher (Stronsay, Orkney)" wrote: Graeme Wall wrote: Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. Over in Kirkwall a pint of Guinness has been about three pounds for a couple of months now. But that's not North, that's foriegn :-) -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
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Mizter T wrote: On 10 Jun, 19:53, Graeme Wall wrote: In message Mizter T wrote: On 10 Jun, 17:39, Graeme Wall wrote: In message "sweller" wrote: (snip) How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. £1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. If you know where to go you can get yourself a pint for something like £1.80. And it's not the establishment with faux-marble bar counters. You can in Southampton as well, but not generally in Central London (bar Weatherspoons). May I merrily spread the good word of Samuel Smith's Brewery. Please do :-) The beer may all be brewed in Yorkshire but central London plays host to many of Sam Smith's distinctively convivial hostelries - traditional pubs, no music, decent fellow drinkers, a lovely pint, and minimal damage to your wallet. 'Tis a winner. If it's your round, this is the place to buy it! I first came across Sam Smiths at a little pub in Shildon in 1975. I still have the branded tankard presented to me by the landlord to celebrate drinking his pub dry. ob railway, I was there for the S&D 150th as part of the GWS sales team so I had plenty of assistance in the drinking. -- Graeme Wall This address is not read, substitute trains for rail. Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Jun 9, 8:50 pm, 1506 wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:33 am, nessuno2001 wrote: Hello everybody, do you know how much was a ticket for the London underground in the early '60s? In preparation for decimalisation in 1971, London Transport moved all fares to be multiples of 6d, which had an exact conversion at 2.5p. And they were one of the last organisations to make widespread use of the half (new) penny before its abolition. In doing this, they were one of the few large organisations to be completely transparent about decimalisation. Most took the opportunity to introduce a hidden price increase, even other nationalised transport bodies. Scottish Omnibuses increased the fare from my home town to the nearest city from 2s 3d (just over 11p) to 13p. John Part of the problem surely was the (UK) Ewe Kay's decision to "decimalise" the Whole Pound, rather than what happened first in South Africa, and later in Australia and New Zealand, where the "local pound" was decimalised as the rand/Aussie-Kiwi dollar based on ten shillings, i.e. "half a pound". A "shilling" immediately became 10 cents, not 5p... six pence became 5 cents. In the "dominions", the only awkward conversions involved the pennies between one and four, and six and nine. In NZ, the Decimal Currency Board (from memory!) had strict controls on pricing guidelines when the switch was made on Monday 10 July 1967. I personally prepared payroll for ~50 employees for payout on Tues 11 July '67... and had it paid out in cash with the "new" paper bills and coinage. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Jun 10, 10:26*pm, Graeme Wall wrote:
In message * * * * * Mizter T wrote: On 10 Jun, 19:53, Graeme Wall wrote: In message * * * * * Mizter T wrote: On 10 Jun, 17:39, Graeme Wall wrote: In message * * * * * "sweller" wrote: (snip) How much, say, beer, bread or cheese would the 3d buy in 1969, compared to the £1.50 fare today? Beer reached 2/- a pint around 1969, in London at least. *So you could get 1/8 of a pint for 3d. *£1.50 should get you a half now. Waits for Northerners to die of shock at the price. If you know where to go you can get yourself a pint for something like £1.80. And it's not the establishment with faux-marble bar counters. You can in Southampton as well, but not generally in Central London (bar Weatherspoons). May I merrily spread the good word of Samuel Smith's Brewery. Please do :-) The beer may all be brewed in Yorkshire but central London plays host to many of Sam Smith's distinctively convivial hostelries - traditional pubs, no music, decent fellow drinkers, a lovely pint, and minimal damage to your wallet. 'Tis a winner. If it's your round, this is the place to buy it! Slight warning if the round includes soft drinks. The beer price may lead one to assume that everything is cheap, but they have hugely racked up the soft drink prices in their London pubs. I don't think this is the case in Yorkshire though. I first came across Sam Smiths at a little pub in Shildon in 1975. *I still have the branded tankard presented to me by the landlord to celebrate drinking his pub dry. *ob railway, I was there for the S&D 150th as part of the GWS sales team so I had plenty of assistance in the drinking. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
On Jun 10, 8:14*am, Chris Tolley wrote:
Peter Masson wrote: BR went decimal a day earlier than the national D-day, so for the price of an Oxford platform ticket (the last time I've ever bought one) I had in my hand the change for a shilling of a 1p and a 2p coin a day before most people could get hold of them. Example coinage was on sale for a couple of years before it could be spent. A plastic wallet labelled "Britain's First Decimal Coins". Anyone could get a set. Do you happen to know the provenance of a 1970 two-shilling (ie 10p till 1992) coin I found in my change once? Was there an equivalent "last non-decimal coins" set available that included coins that weren't generally made and that someone accidentally spent? (Given that they started using 10p coins for 2s in 1968.) |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
"MIG" wrote Do you happen to know the provenance of a 1970 two-shilling (ie 10p till 1992) coin I found in my change once? Was there an equivalent "last non-decimal coins" set available that included coins that weren't generally made and that someone accidentally spent? (Given that they started using 10p coins for 2s in 1968.) Yes - I have a set of 1970 pre-decimal coins, containing halfpenny, penny, threepence, sixpence, shilling (English and Scottish versions), two shillings, and half crown. Some of these were not minted for general circulation in that year. Weren't the coins enormous? The two shillings is the same diameter as the current £2 coin, while both the penny and the half-crown are larger. Peter |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Peter Masson wrote:
Weren't the coins enormous? The two shillings is the same diameter as the current #2 coin, while both the penny and the half-crown are larger. I found a tin with a load of old coins in - by old, I mean post 1971 - and I was surprised at the size of the 50p and 10p. No wonder I always had holes in my trouser pockets. -- Simon Brighton ex-Westbury, ex-Aberystwyth |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
sweller wrote:
Peter Masson wrote: Weren't the coins enormous? The two shillings is the same diameter as the current #2 coin, while both the penny and the half-crown are larger. I found a tin with a load of old coins in - by old, I mean post 1971 - and I was surprised at the size of the 50p and 10p. No wonder I always had holes in my trouser pockets. In a way it's a shame that the 5p shrank in 1990 and 10p in 1992 (can't remember when the 50p shrank). Before that you used to get loads of funny old coins still in circulation after a very long time. I understood that the reason why 5p and 10p were made exactly the same size and weight as 1s and 2s was because so many people had slot meters that would have had to be replaced. Decimalisation was in 1971, but 5p and 10p were minted from 1968 and 50p from 1969 (hence the 1970 2s being odd) and 1s and 2s stayed in circulation as 5p and 10p of course. I did once find a 1938 2s in my change, but I think that the reason why you hardly ever saw any dated before 1947 was that that was the first year when there wasn't any silver content. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
MIG wrote:
In a way it's a shame that the 5p shrank in 1990 and 10p in 1992 (can't remember when the 50p shrank). Before that you used to get loads of funny old coins still in circulation after a very long time. For my tenth birthday I received some pound notes from relatives. This was the month (February 1978) that the old pre-decimal pound note started to give way to the new smaller style. Relatives being relatives thought it was nice to put the new crisp notes in the cards. I was gutted, the old ones were bigger, didn't my aged Aunts realise these were worth more! -- Simon Brighton ex-Westbury, ex-Aberystwyth |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Peter Masson wrote:
Yes - I have a set of 1970 pre-decimal coins, containing halfpenny, penny, threepence, sixpence, shilling (English and Scottish versions), two shillings, and half crown. Some of these were not minted for general circulation in that year. None of them were minted for general circulation, though presumably the 6d, 1s and 2s were legal tender. Sets are reasonably common and come up on Ebay all the time. Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?
Paul Rigg wrote:
I seem to recall that the post office put second class mail up from 4d to 2.5p (ie 6d) and first class mail up from 5d to 3p (7.2d) and claimed that it wasnt really a price increase. I'm fairly sure the rates went to 6d and 7d before decimalisation, but apparently after Christmas 1970. So not very long before. Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
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