Mizter T wrote:

It's marked as Savoy Circus on a map - well on Streetmap at least...
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldmap.sr...0&y=180500ar=N

...is it Western Circus on the signs there then? And more to the
point, where exactly is the purported Circus, or was this location
once host to a long gone roundabout?

Lots of circuses do not contain roundabouts... I'm not sure if they all did
once.

I realise there is a roundabout
of sorts as traffic coming off the westbound A40 that wishes to head
northbound

.... or southbound traffic that wishes to head west...

has to go literally round a block (Old Oak Lane, East Acton
Lane, Oal Oak Common Lane), so is that the Circus?

No, and that's not a roundabout either, because traffic looping around the
north corner has to give way.

On 18 Dec, 13:57, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

It's marked as Savoy Circus on a map - well on Streetmap at least...
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldmap.sr...0&y=180500ar=N

...is it Western Circus on the signs there then? And more to the
point, where exactly is the purported Circus, or was this location
once host to a long gone roundabout?

Lots of circuses do not contain roundabouts... I'm not sure if they all did
once.


No you're quite right, and actually I think it was simply a name for
places where many roads met up. No need for complex traffic junctions
when everything was horse (or indeed human!) driven.


I realise there is a roundabout
of sorts as traffic coming off the westbound A40 that wishes to head
northbound

... or southbound traffic that wishes to head west...

Yes, I wasn't sure about the junction.layout but of course that
follows.


has to go literally round a block (Old Oak Lane, East Acton
Lane, Oal Oak Common Lane), so is that the Circus?

No, and that's not a roundabout either, because traffic looping around the
north corner has to give way.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Mizter T wrote:

On 18 Dec, 02:34, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Also interesting to note that the actual roadway of the roundabout
goes by the name of "Northway Circus"...
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldmap.sr...&y=192750&ar=N
...so it seems that this is a junction with a bit of an identity
crises.

Like Savoy Circus/Western Circus in East Acton.

It's marked as Savoy Circus on a map - well on Streetmap at least...
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldmap.sr...0&y=180500ar=N

...is it Western Circus on the signs there then? And more to the point,
where exactly is the purported Circus, or was this location once host to
a long gone roundabout? I realise there is a roundabout of sorts as
traffic coming off the westbound A40 that wishes to head northbound has
to go literally round a block (Old Oak Lane, East Acton Lane, Oal Oak
Common Lane), so is that the Circus?

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

Or Baker Street.

tom

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, John Rowland wrote:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200..._at_night.html

I rather like number 11 - Charing Cross station looks like some sort of
monstrous spider, poised to run over the bridge and devour the South Bank.

tom

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about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even
the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the
sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature
of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known
with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience. -- St Augustine

In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

It's Sarf Lunnon, innit? No circuses there. Or have I got it wrong?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

It's Sarf Lunnon, innit? No circuses there. Or have I got it wrong?

What sort of Englishman forgets Saint George!

In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

wrote:
In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

It's Sarf Lunnon, innit? No circuses there. Or have I got it wrong?

What sort of Englishman forgets Saint George!

I thought of St George actually but UK Streetmap and Multimap don't seem
to recognise it. I guess their search algorithms get confused by "St".

So, like all good rules it is proved by its exception.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote:
In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

wrote:
In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

It's Sarf Lunnon, innit? No circuses there. Or have I got it wrong?

What sort of Englishman forgets Saint George!

I thought of St George actually but UK Streetmap and Multimap don't
seem to recognise it. I guess their search algorithms get confused by
"St".

So, like all good rules it is proved by its exception.

Is there really a rule about no circuses in South London? Along with St
George's Circus, I can think of Royal Circus, Culling Circus, York Circus,
Charleville Circus and Queens Circus.

On 19 Dec, 15:46, "John Rowland"
wrote:

wrote:

In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

wrote:

In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

It's Sarf Lunnon, innit? No circuses there. Or have I got it wrong?

What sort of Englishman forgets Saint George!

I thought of St George actually but UK Streetmap and Multimap don't
seem to recognise it. I guess their search algorithms get confused by
"St".

So, like all good rules it is proved by its exception.

Is there really a rule about no circuses in South London? Along with St
George's Circus, I can think of Royal Circus, Culling Circus, York Circus,
Charleville Circus and Queens Circus.


There be no such rule!

And when it comes to Circuses of the big-top variety, there have been
plenty - for example the (rather upmarket) Moscow State Circus was on
Blackheath recently - and I've even been to see a few of their shows
too!

Not sure where the nearest one has set up to the Elephant & Castle
though (in recent years at least) - perhaps Peckham Rye Common is the
closest place.

In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

On 19 Dec, 15:46, "John Rowland"
wrote:

wrote:

In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

wrote:

In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

And why on earth aren't there any Circuses at the Elephant?

It's Sarf Lunnon, innit? No circuses there. Or have I got it
wrong?

What sort of Englishman forgets Saint George!

I thought of St George actually but UK Streetmap and Multimap don't
seem to recognise it. I guess their search algorithms get confused
by "St".

So, like all good rules it is proved by its exception.

Is there really a rule about no circuses in South London? Along with
St George's Circus, I can think of Royal Circus, Culling Circus,
York Circus, Charleville Circus and Queens Circus.

There be no such rule!

And when it comes to Circuses of the big-top variety, there have been
plenty - for example the (rather upmarket) Moscow State Circus was on
Blackheath recently - and I've even been to see a few of their shows
too!

They don't come to Putney Heath any more, but we weren't referring to that
kind of circus anyway.

Not sure where the nearest one has set up to the Elephant & Castle
though (in recent years at least) - perhaps Peckham Rye Common is the
closest place.

--
Colin Rosenstiel