On Jan 6, 9:13*am, 1506 wrote:

After reading your post I looked again. *The link has gone. *It was
there earlier, honestly, :-)

The site appears to include automatically generated advertisements, of
which John Lewis was probably one when you looked at it, but for some
reason not where I am. As I am in Switzerland at this particular
second and I don't believe they have a presence there, that's not
entirely surprising

John Lewis, of course, do sell items for bathrooms, but I think they
would largely be of the kind that actually contain baths.

Neil

On Jan 6, 10:10*am, Neil Williams wrote:
On Jan 6, 9:13*am, 1506 wrote:

After reading your post I looked again. *The link has gone. *It was
there earlier, honestly, :-)

The site appears to include automatically generated advertisements, of
which John Lewis was probably one when you looked at it, but for some
reason not where I am. *As I am in Switzerland at this particular
second and I don't believe they have a presence there, that's not
entirely surprising

John Lewis, of course, do sell items for bathrooms, but I think they
would largely be of the kind that actually contain baths.

Back in the 1960s one of my first jobs was in retail. I worked on
Regents St. We were told that customers would ask for the bathroom,
and how to direct them.

wrote

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:06:19 +0000, Philip wrote:

I realise that others like to complicate matters more than we do
here in
Yorkshire, but let's be clear: It's a bloody toilet.

But that word is a euphemism. Who was it who joked about bathing his
brow with toilet water when the seat fell onto his head ?

Why not just say bog ?

/All/ of them are euphemisms, really, and in fact mostly concerned with
/wash/ like the US usage of bathroom as a euphemism that this
subsubthread stated with.

latrine, toilet, can, convenience, head, john, johnny, lavatory, loo,
privy, water closet

****house is perhaps the only term that isn't.

(also, basement, commode, donnicker, little boy's room, men's room,
rest room, washroom)

--
Mike D

Chris Tolley (ukonline really) wrote

1506 wrote:

One rarely has a problem asking the whereabouts of the bathroom in
the
UK.

Indeed. You get the answer you need and then the person you asked
spends
the rest of the day telling people about the odd conversation he had.

Same if they ask for directions to "the subway".

That a term is understandable doesn't make it correct usage.

--
Mike D

On Jan 6, 8:21*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
"Graham Harrison" wrote in message

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"Tim Fenton" wrote in message
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"Graham Harrison" wrote in
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I sort of understand the principle of what you're arguing but, as I
understand it, there is a traffic imbalance between the east and west
ends of Crossrail; significantly more traffic from the east side of
London than the west. * If your suggestion helped to balance the
imbalance I might support it, but it doesn't as far as I can see.

I expect that traffic from the west end of Crossrail will build quickly
when it is seen to relieve the Central Line. But the idea that other
traffic would be allowed through I doubt: compare with the Munich or
Frankfurt-M S-Bahn tunnels.

The London and South East 2nd generation RUS draft proposes:
extending Maidenhead services to Reading (as generally expected),
incorporating HEx as well as Connect, with both at 4 tph,
incorporating WCML stoppers from Tring, possibly another 4 tph?

AIUI that will get the misbalance down to 18tph west, 24 tph east.

Paul

Reading
HEx
HC

that's 3 x 4 =12

Not sure how you get the WCML stoppers in to the tunnel but that still
only makes 16tph. * Or is the base Crossrail to Maidenhead/Reading 6tph?

There are two Crossrail that terminate at West Drayton. *The 10 tph in the
published plan was 4 tph Connect, 4 tph Maidenhead, 2 tph West Drayton.

Reaching Crossrail from the WCML slows would presumably be via Old Oak
Common, using the same underpass the SN services use, with a bit of extra
electrification and posibly new track. *Doesn't seem too difficult, though I
assume it'll all have to fit round HS2...

How far do you want to send these rapid transit trais, Bletchley?
Milton Keynes Central? Northampton? Birmingham? Are Euston to
Birmingham trains to share the WCML slow pair? What about freight?
This looks like a formula to destroy Crossrail sheduling.

"Why, it's a closet, where we store our water..."

-miles

--
Discriminate, v.i. To note the particulars in which one person or thing is,
if possible, more objectionable than another.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

wrote

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:06:19 +0000, Philip wrote:

I realise that others like to complicate matters more than we do here
in Yorkshire, but let's be clear: It's a bloody toilet.

Yes, i've often heard that said about Yorkshire.

But that word is a euphemism. Who was it who joked about bathing his
brow with toilet water when the seat fell onto his head ?

Why not just say bog ?

/All/ of them are euphemisms, really, and in fact mostly concerned with
/wash/ like the US usage of bathroom as a euphemism that this
subsubthread stated with.

latrine, toilet, can, convenience, head, john, johnny, lavatory, loo,
privy, water closet

****house is perhaps the only term that isn't.

And that's slang. Is there really no proper word for it that isn't a
euphemism?

tom

--
curry in a sack

"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...

In North America a "half bath" is a toilet and sink/handwashing
facilities but no bath.

A "full bath" typically includes either a tub, shower, or both.

Neither definition is entirely written in stone though so you'll find
other things described in some cases.

While I'm familiar with the American usage of 'bathroom' to cover all types
of bathrooms/loos etc, whether or not they contain a bathtub, I hadn't come
across these niceties of 'full' and 'half' baths. Though, returning to the
sleeper train theme, I did travel on a night train in Australia once which
had a shower room attached to the sleeping compartment...

Martin

"Martin Rich" writes:
I hadn't come across these niceties of 'full' and 'half' baths.

I've only seen those used in real-estate advertisements, presumably to
avoid using a "low" word like toilet (which is what a "half bath" is...).

-Miles

--
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it." Mahatma Gandhi

On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:31:21 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

wrote

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:06:19 +0000, Philip wrote:

I realise that others like to complicate matters more than we do here
in Yorkshire, but let's be clear: It's a bloody toilet.

Yes, i've often heard that said about Yorkshire.

But that word is a euphemism. Who was it who joked about bathing his
brow with toilet water when the seat fell onto his head ?

Why not just say bog ?

/All/ of them are euphemisms, really, and in fact mostly concerned with
/wash/ like the US usage of bathroom as a euphemism that this
subsubthread stated with.

latrine, toilet, can, convenience, head, john, johnny, lavatory, loo,
privy, water closet

****house is perhaps the only term that isn't.

And that's slang.

No more than the others. The established names in the non-English
national languages of the UK all translate as "small house" which IMU
is not translated slang as the equivalents to "house" are not
restricted to describing habitations.

Is there really no proper word for it that isn't a euphemism?

"Sh1tter" isn't a euphemism but probably won't impress the
wife/boss/minister. Urinal is not euphemistic but does not answer the
entire question; I formally stake a copyright claim on the creation of
the "faectory". As for "privy", that is arguably not euphemistic (and
has well established formal use in previous times) as it derives from
the non-public nature of its use rather than from what takes place.