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[email protected] · January 14th 15, 04:46 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article , d ()
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:19:35 -0600 wrote:
In article ,
() wrote:
Is it really necessary for freight to use the NLL in the first place?
Surely there must be other routes it can take. Or just do most freight
at night with a limited service in the day.

I thought you knew everything? Obviously not or you would have know about
traffic from the UK's busiest port to its busiest main railway line.

Sadly I don't have the time nor inclination to review the entire
railway route map of the UK.

Not even its busiest sections? Shame!

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Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] · January 15th 15, 08:52 AM posted to uk.transport.london

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:46:20 -0600
wrote:
In article , d ()
wrote:
I thought you knew everything? Obviously not or you would have know about
traffic from the UK's busiest port to its busiest main railway line.

Sadly I don't have the time nor inclination to review the entire
railway route map of the UK.

Not even its busiest sections? Shame!

Actually I've looked at the link to the ECML on google maps and the only one I
can find is facing the wrong way for ELL so I take back what I said. Pity.

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Spud

Recliner[_3_] · January 15th 15, 08:55 AM posted to uk.transport.london

wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:46:20 -0600
wrote:
In article , d ()
wrote:
I thought you knew everything? Obviously not or you would have know about
traffic from the UK's busiest port to its busiest main railway line.

Sadly I don't have the time nor inclination to review the entire
railway route map of the UK.

Not even its busiest sections? Shame!

Actually I've looked at the link to the ECML on google maps and the only one I
can find is facing the wrong way for ELL so I take back what I said. Pity.

The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

[email protected] · January 15th 15, 09:15 AM posted to uk.transport.london

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 09:55:23 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:46:20 -0600
wrote:
In article , d
()
wrote:
I thought you knew everything? Obviously not or you would have know about
traffic from the UK's busiest port to its busiest main railway line.

Sadly I don't have the time nor inclination to review the entire
railway route map of the UK.

Not even its busiest sections? Shame!

Actually I've looked at the link to the ECML on google maps and the only one
I
can find is facing the wrong way for ELL so I take back what I said. Pity.

The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

Ok. And? Finsbury Park is on the ECML , not the WCML.

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Spud

Robin9 · January 15th 15, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by

On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 11:05:15 -0800 (PST)
Mark wrote:
On Monday, 12 January 2015 17:31:56 UTC, wrote:
entrance on the other side to add another 100m onto the walk. The line can't
take 5 car trains at some stops - and don't tell me they couldn't have
enlarged station tunnels - the trains were indequate from the start and the
service frequency is poor.

It's been said for well over a decade now that lengthening Rotherhithe and
Wapping
would either be too difficult or impossible. Selective door opening is common
on
bits of the tube network which are far newer.

It was said that enlarging the connaught tunnel for crossrail was "impossible"
but they managed it.

If they'd simply built the section north from whitechapel and instead of the
idiotic decision to stop at H&I instead of finsbury which would have
provided an interchange with the ECML it would have been a much more useful
line and cheaper. There was no need to co-opt pre existing sound london
lines
since they were already perfectly well served.

You repeatedly say this, but repeating it doesn't mean it makes any more sense.

Well it makes more sense than thousands of people spilling out at finsbury,
shuffling onto the victoria line - which is already seriously overcrowded there
in the rush hour - for one stop then getting off at highbury when there is an
underused freight line - albeit single track - onto the NLL that could have
been used for passenger trains.

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Spud

The Canonbury tunnel used to be a passenger route: through to Broad Street.
In my early twenties, I travelled to work that way every day.

I think Spud is right when he says that taking the L.O. to Finsbury Park would
have been better than taking it to Highbury & Islington. I've never been
persuaded that the frequency of freight trains is such that running L.O. trains
across the tracks and into the tunnel is impossible.

[email protected] · January 15th 15, 10:00 AM posted to uk.transport.london

In article , d
() wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 09:55:23 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:46:20 -0600
wrote:
In article ,
d() wrote:
I thought you knew everything? Obviously not or you would have know
about traffic from the UK's busiest port to its busiest main railway
line.

Sadly I don't have the time nor inclination to review the entire
railway route map of the UK.

Not even its busiest sections? Shame!

Actually I've looked at the link to the ECML on google maps and the
only one I can find is facing the wrong way for ELL so I take back what
I said. Pity.

The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

Ok. And? Finsbury Park is on the ECML , not the WCML.

But the main freight traffic flow on the North London Line which is in the
way of your Canonbury Curve passenger traffic idea is between Felixstowe and
the West Coast Main Line. Did you not know that, o knowledgeable one?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry · January 15th 15, 11:04 AM posted to uk.transport.london

In message , at 05:00:24
on Thu, 15 Jan 2015, remarked:
The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

Ok. And? Finsbury Park is on the ECML , not the WCML.

But the main freight traffic flow on the North London Line which is in the
way of your Canonbury Curve passenger traffic idea is between Felixstowe and
the West Coast Main Line. Did you not know that, o knowledgeable one?

Isn't the busiest main line the GEML into Liverpool St?
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Roland Perry

[email protected] · January 15th 15, 01:06 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 05:00:24 -0600
wrote:
In article , d
() wrote:
Actually I've looked at the link to the ECML on google maps and the
only one I can find is facing the wrong way for ELL so I take back what
I said. Pity.

The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

Ok. And? Finsbury Park is on the ECML , not the WCML.

But the main freight traffic flow on the North London Line which is in the
way of your Canonbury Curve passenger traffic idea is between Felixstowe and
the West Coast Main Line. Did you not know that, o knowledgeable one?

No. I care about the railways when its of concern to my commute. I currently
have no plans on commuting in a container to or from Felixstow.

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Spud

[email protected] · January 15th 15, 01:16 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
05:00:24 on Thu, 15 Jan 2015, remarked:
The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

Ok. And? Finsbury Park is on the ECML , not the WCML.

But the main freight traffic flow on the North London Line which is in
the way of your Canonbury Curve passenger traffic idea is between
Felixstowe and the West Coast Main Line. Did you not know that, o
knowledgeable one?

Isn't the busiest main line the GEML into Liverpool St?

Not sure but I doubt it.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Recliner[_3_] · January 15th 15, 01:40 PM posted to uk.transport.london

wrote:
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
05:00:24 on Thu, 15 Jan 2015, remarked:
The busiest main line isn't the ECML, as I'm sure a man of your great
learning knows very well.

Ok. And? Finsbury Park is on the ECML , not the WCML.

But the main freight traffic flow on the North London Line which is in
the way of your Canonbury Curve passenger traffic idea is between
Felixstowe and the West Coast Main Line. Did you not know that, o
knowledgeable one?

Isn't the busiest main line the GEML into Liverpool St?

Not sure but I doubt it.

The WCML is normally described as the busiest mixed traffic railway in
Europe, and t think it has at least four tracks for longer than other UK
main lines.

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