In message , at 15:21:21
on Mon, 25 May 2015, remarked:

No, just for the stations on the "London rail and tube services" map
to be generally understood as being in London.

You say. I doubt they would agree with you in Hertfordshire.

The stations in question are inside the green belt (although some might
say anomalously so).


http://londongreenbeltcouncil.org.uk/lgbc%20website/pdf/mgbmapleaflet15.02.15.pdf

Hertford East and Bishop's Stortford? Doesn't look like it to me.

Those aren't on the "London rail and tube services" map either.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
15:21:21 on Mon, 25 May 2015, remarked:

No, just for the stations on the "London rail and tube services" map
to be generally understood as being in London.

You say. I doubt they would agree with you in Hertfordshire.

The stations in question are inside the green belt (although some might
say anomalously so).


http://londongreenbeltcouncil.org.uk...apleaflet15.02
..15.pdf

Hertford East and Bishop's Stortford? Doesn't look like it to me.

Those aren't on the "London rail and tube services" map either.

So the routes there rightly remain with Greater Anglia then?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 02:50:06
on Tue, 26 May 2015, remarked:
No, just for the stations on the "London rail and tube services" map
to be generally understood as being in London.

You say. I doubt they would agree with you in Hertfordshire.

The stations in question are inside the green belt (although some might
say anomalously so).


http://londongreenbeltcouncil.org.uk...apleaflet15.02
.15.pdf

Hertford East and Bishop's Stortford? Doesn't look like it to me.

Those aren't on the "London rail and tube services" map either.

So the routes there rightly remain with Greater Anglia then?

Yes, they do, but they also serve whichever definition of London we
take. For intermediate journeys as well as out to the countryside.

Of course, the Overground to Watford Junction is also straying into
Herts.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
02:50:06 on Tue, 26 May 2015, remarked:
No, just for the stations on the "London rail and tube services"
map to be generally understood as being in London.

You say. I doubt they would agree with you in Hertfordshire.

The stations in question are inside the green belt (although some
might say anomalously so).


http://londongreenbeltcouncil.org.uk...mapleaflet15.0
2.15.pdf

Hertford East and Bishop's Stortford? Doesn't look like it to me.

Those aren't on the "London rail and tube services" map either.

So the routes there rightly remain with Greater Anglia then?

Yes, they do, but they also serve whichever definition of London we
take. For intermediate journeys as well as out to the countryside.

Of course, the Overground to Watford Junction is also straying into
Herts.

And there are London Midland services going well beyond London, just like
Greater Anglia.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 04:36:31
on Tue, 26 May 2015, remarked:
No, just for the stations on the "London rail and tube services"
map to be generally understood as being in London.

You say. I doubt they would agree with you in Hertfordshire.

The stations in question are inside the green belt (although some
might say anomalously so).


http://londongreenbeltcouncil.org.uk...mapleaflet15.0
2.15.pdf

Hertford East and Bishop's Stortford? Doesn't look like it to me.

Those aren't on the "London rail and tube services" map either.

So the routes there rightly remain with Greater Anglia then?

Yes, they do, but they also serve whichever definition of London we
take. For intermediate journeys as well as out to the countryside.

Of course, the Overground to Watford Junction is also straying into
Herts.

And there are London Midland services going well beyond London, just like
Greater Anglia.

Not sure what that statement is trying to prove.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
04:36:31 on Tue, 26 May 2015, remarked:
No, just for the stations on the "London rail and tube
services" map to be generally understood as being in London.

You say. I doubt they would agree with you in Hertfordshire.

The stations in question are inside the green belt (although some
might say anomalously so).


http://londongreenbeltcouncil.org.uk...leaflet15.02.1
5.pdf

Hertford East and Bishop's Stortford? Doesn't look like it to me.

Those aren't on the "London rail and tube services" map either.

So the routes there rightly remain with Greater Anglia then?

Yes, they do, but they also serve whichever definition of London we
take. For intermediate journeys as well as out to the countryside.

Of course, the Overground to Watford Junction is also straying into
Herts.

And there are London Midland services going well beyond London, just like
Greater Anglia.

Not sure what that statement is trying to prove.

That the STAR service should rightly be run by the Greater Anglia TOC and
not be taken over by TfL.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 07:29:45
on Tue, 26 May 2015, remarked:
Of course, the Overground to Watford Junction is also straying into
Herts.

And there are London Midland services going well beyond London, just like
Greater Anglia.

Not sure what that statement is trying to prove.

That the STAR service should rightly be run by the Greater Anglia TOC and
not be taken over by TfL.

So not refuting that AGA's Stratford-Bishops Stortford service also
serves Londoners?
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
07:29:45 on Tue, 26 May 2015, remarked:
Of course, the Overground to Watford Junction is also straying into
Herts.

And there are London Midland services going well beyond London, just
like Greater Anglia.

Not sure what that statement is trying to prove.

That the STAR service should rightly be run by the Greater Anglia TOC and
not be taken over by TfL.

So not refuting that AGA's Stratford-Bishops Stortford service also
serves Londoners?

So do Hertford East services, including those via Seven Sisters.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

As of now (Saturday 19:30) https://tfl.gov.uk/maps links to a tube map
that does show the new Overground lines, but a London connections map
that doesn't, and an Overground map that doesn't. Very poor!

In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

As of now (Saturday 19:30) https://tfl.gov.uk/maps links to a tube
map that does show the new Overground lines, but a London connections
map that doesn't, and an Overground map that doesn't. Very poor!

Surely the new map only comes into effect tomorrow?

--
Colin Rosenstiel