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In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 18:06:24 -0500,

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In article ,
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There are 19825 London bus stops, of which 7852 (39.6%) are served
by at least one night bus.
[...]
Perhaps he only takes notice of N-prefixed night bus routes - they
used to be the only night buses in town. However some years ago TfL
started running some night buses on the exact same route as their day
equivalents - rather than having an N-prefix, these services are
described as "24 hour" instead.

Not always the "exact same route" thus the 65 is extended from
Kingston to Chessington at night.


Quite often in fact. The 10 (the only night bus service I've ever caught,
to get an early train at Euston) only goes to Putney at night.


Err no actually. The 65 is unique in running further at night than
during the day but not having a "N" prefix to show the difference. The
N10 was withdrawn and replaced by a 24 hours route 10 to Hammersmith
with the 24 hours 33 running from Hammersmith to Fulwell. The section
through Putney is no longer covered.


So, if I was still staying at my mother's in Putney (she died in 2012 and I
stopped working in london in 2011) I couldn't get an early train from Euston
any more?

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In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 18:06:24 -0500,

wrote:

In article ,

(Michael R N Dolbear) wrote:

There are 19825 London bus stops, of which 7852 (39.6%) are

served by at least one night bus.
[...]
Perhaps he only takes notice of N-prefixed night bus routes -

they used to be the only night buses in town. However some
years ago TfL started running some night buses on the exact
same route as their day equivalents - rather than having an
N-prefix, these services are described as "24 hour" instead.

Not always the "exact same route" thus the 65 is extended from
Kingston to Chessington at night.

Quite often in fact. The 10 (the only night bus service I've ever
caught, to get an early train at Euston) only goes to Putney at
night.


Err no actually. The 65 is unique in running further at night than
during the day but not having a "N" prefix to show the difference.
The N10 was withdrawn and replaced by a 24 hours route 10 to
Hammersmith with the 24 hours 33 running from Hammersmith to
Fulwell. The section through Putney is no longer covered.


So, if I was still staying at my mother's in Putney (she died in 2012
and I stopped working in london in 2011) I couldn't get an early
train from Euston any more?


There is the 24 hour 14 from Putney to Warren Street which is close
enough to Euston.

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Basil Jet wrote:

On 2015\09\09 19:15, Peter Smyth wrote:
tim..... wrote:


"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 07:09:10PM +0100, Paul Corfield wrote:

If we had an appalling night bus service then I might
understand the attraction of a night tube but the Night Bus
is very good and especially at weekends. If nothing else it
will typically get people closer to where they live than a
tube line will given the great spread of bus stops across
London.

Almost all bus stops have no night bus.

I don't think you've looked at the network recently

"almost all" is most certainly wrong

I think you'd have a problem justifying a "more than half" claim

tim


There are 19825 London bus stops, of which 7852 (39.6%) are served
by at least one night bus.


Are you including the 24-hour buses as night buses?


Yes, all buses that run at night, whether they have an N in their name
or not.

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In article , (Mizter T) wrote:

On 11/09/2015 10:14, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 18:06:24 -0500,

wrote:
[...]
Perhaps he only takes notice of N-prefixed night bus routes - they
used to be the only night buses in town. However some years ago TfL
started running some night buses on the exact same route as their
day equivalents - rather than having an N-prefix, these services
are described as "24 hour" instead.


Not always the "exact same route" thus the 65 is extended from
Kingston to Chessington at night.

Quite often in fact. The 10 (the only night bus service I've ever
caught, to get an early train at Euston) only goes to Putney at night.


Err no actually. The 65 is unique in running further at night than
during the day but not having a "N" prefix to show the difference. The
N10 was withdrawn and replaced by a 24 hours route 10 to Hammersmith
with the 24 hours 33 running from Hammersmith to Fulwell. The section
through Putney is no longer covered.


IIRC it was arriving at Euston by 0600. It seems the 14 runs 24 hours on its
normal route. So it would meet my particular requirement.

Thanks - I thought I'd got that right! Any idea why the 65 doesn't
follow the prefixing logic?

(And I remember posting on here to try persuade Colin that him
catching said night bus from Putney was in fact a very sensible idea
- he was pretty sceptical beforehand!)


Indeed. I had never come across the 10 in Putney before! i wonder why the 14
wouldn't have done then?

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In article , (Peter Smyth)
wrote:

wrote:

So, if I was still staying at my mother's in Putney (she died in 2012
and I stopped working in London in 2011) I couldn't get an early
train from Euston any more?


There is the 24 hour 14 from Putney to Warren Street which is close
enough to Euston.


IIRC, that was as close as the 10 got. It took a more scenic route via
Hammersmith.

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