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[email protected] · November 10th 15, 01:11 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:28:59 +0000
Recliner wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:25:39 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:45:55 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:34:41 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:40:20 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
The rebuild will add a huge amount of extra circulation space and much
faster egress routes to the street. This will aid evacuation and
reduce the time to get people out in an emergency.

I wonder if they'll "unwind" the tunnels and revert Bank to left hand
running?

That's not in the plan. I went to see the exhibition at the time and
looked at the cut away models they'd done to show how it all fits
together.

Odd. I'd have thought that an obvious thing to do to speed up the service
since it crawls around the bends going south.

London Bridge also has right-hand running.

Is it? Fair enough, I thought it was just Bank.

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Spud

[email protected] · November 10th 15, 03:17 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article ,
(Offramp) wrote:

On Tuesday, 10 November 2015 08:29:25 UTC, Recliner wrote:

Fair enough, but they're all solutions to the same problem, fitting
vastly more people into old, constricted stations.

There are probably worse changes on the Tube, but personally I always
disliked Central Line Bank to Northern Line Bank (and vice versa)
MOST. A crowded spiral staircase with people breathing down your neck
- a thin passageway and then a queue to get down the stairs! Then, on
the Northern platform, the crush of passengers. I was going to
Tooting, so I had no real choice. Some people were only travelling
Bank-London Bridge, but luckily in good weather a huge amount of
people took to shanks's pony.

I think that's what my son-in-law, who commutes from Cambridge to Liverpool
St and works at London Bridge, does fairly regularly.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Offramp · November 10th 15, 03:43 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:17:52 UTC, wrote:

I think that's what my son-in-law, who commutes from Cambridge to Liverpool
St and works at London Bridge, does fairly regularly.

I am a lover of the city of London so walking through it daily never bothered me. IMO it takes five years to get used to the pathways of the City. Someone pointed out to me the beauty of the view of both Adelaide House and St Magnus the Martyr. It is the best bit about the northwards crossing.

Robin9 · November 10th 15, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Offramp

On Tuesday, 10 November 2015 08:29:25 UTC, Recliner wrote:

Fair enough, but they're all solutions to the same problem, fitting vastly
more people into old, constricted stations.

There are probably worse changes on the Tube, but personally I always disliked Central Line Bank to Northern Line Bank (and vice versa) MOST. A crowded spiral staircase with people breathing down your neck - a thin passageway and then a queue to get down the stairs! Then, on the Northern platform, the crush of passengers. I was going to Tooting, so I had no real choice. Some people were only travelling Bank-London Bridge, but luckily in good weather a huge amount of people took to shanks's pony.

Travelling from Archway to Leyton the other day, I changed
at Bank. I agree with you. It's dire.

Peter Smyth[_3_] · November 10th 15, 08:10 PM posted to uk.transport.london

d wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:45:55 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:34:41 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:40:20 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
The rebuild will add a huge amount of extra circulation space
and much faster egress routes to the street. This will aid
evacuation and reduce the time to get people out in an
emergency.

I wonder if they'll "unwind" the tunnels and revert Bank to left
hand running?

That's not in the plan. I went to see the exhibition at the time and
looked at the cut away models they'd done to show how it all fits
together.

Odd. I'd have thought that an obvious thing to do to speed up the
service since it crawls around the bends going south.

That would require much more tunnelling. I believe the plan is that
Nortbound trains will be able to run non-stop through Bank as normal
during the works, while all Southbound trains will run via Charing
Cross.

Peter Smyth

Mizter T · November 10th 15, 08:54 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On 10/11/2015 13:06, wrote:
[...]
Fair enough, but they're all solutions to the same problem, fitting
vastly more people into old, constricted stations.

Are there plans to rebuild those two stations south of Kennington, the
names of which I cannot at this time recall?

Clapham Common and Clapham North. No plans that I'm aware of.

Basil Jet[_4_] · November 10th 15, 10:21 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On 2015\11\10 17:46, Robin9 wrote:
Offramp;151636 Wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 November 2015 08:29:25 UTC, Recliner wrote:
-
Fair enough, but they're all solutions to the same problem, fitting
vastly
more people into old, constricted stations.-

There are probably worse changes on the Tube, but personally I always
disliked Central Line Bank to Northern Line Bank (and vice versa) MOST.
A crowded spiral staircase with people breathing down your neck - a thin
passageway and then a queue to get down the stairs! Then, on the
Northern platform, the crush of passengers. I was going to Tooting, so I
had no real choice. Some people were only travelling Bank-London Bridge,
but luckily in good weather a huge amount of people took to shanks's
pony.

Travelling from Archway to Leyton the other day, I changed
at Bank. I agree with you. It's dire.

http://content.tfl.gov.uk/gospel-oak...e-may-2015.pdf

[email protected] · November 11th 15, 12:17 AM posted to uk.transport.london

On 10.11.15 21:54, Mizter T wrote:

On 10/11/2015 13:06, wrote:
[...]
Fair enough, but they're all solutions to the same problem, fitting
vastly more people into old, constricted stations.

Are there plans to rebuild those two stations south of Kennington, the
names of which I cannot at this time recall?

Clapham Common and Clapham North. No plans that I'm aware of.

Thank you.

[email protected] · November 11th 15, 12:18 AM posted to uk.transport.london

On 10.11.15 21:10, Peter Smyth wrote:
d wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:45:55 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:34:41 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:40:20 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote:
The rebuild will add a huge amount of extra circulation space
and much faster egress routes to the street. This will aid
evacuation and reduce the time to get people out in an
emergency.

I wonder if they'll "unwind" the tunnels and revert Bank to left
hand running?

That's not in the plan. I went to see the exhibition at the time and
looked at the cut away models they'd done to show how it all fits
together.

Odd. I'd have thought that an obvious thing to do to speed up the
service since it crawls around the bends going south.

That would require much more tunnelling. I believe the plan is that
Nortbound trains will be able to run non-stop through Bank as normal
during the works, while all Southbound trains will run via Charing
Cross.

Peter Smyth

Where is the exhibition, BTW?

Robin9 · November 11th 15, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil Jet[_4_]

On 2015\11\10 17:46, Robin9 wrote:
Offramp;151636 Wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 November 2015 08:29:25 UTC, Recliner wrote:
-
Fair enough, but they're all solutions to the same problem, fitting
vastly
more people into old, constricted stations.-

There are probably worse changes on the Tube, but personally I always
disliked Central Line Bank to Northern Line Bank (and vice versa) MOST.
A crowded spiral staircase with people breathing down your neck - a thin
passageway and then a queue to get down the stairs! Then, on the
Northern platform, the crush of passengers. I was going to Tooting, so I
had no real choice. Some people were only travelling Bank-London Bridge,
but luckily in good weather a huge amount of people took to shanks's
pony.

Travelling from Archway to Leyton the other day, I changed
at Bank. I agree with you. It's dire.

http://content.tfl.gov.uk/gospel-oak...e-may-2015.pdf

It was last Saturday and that line was not running! That's why
I went by tube!

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