On 09/11/2019 17:09, wrote:
Well until we see a crossrail timetable there's no way to tell, but having
commuted all the way to hatton cross and back each day for 9 months on that
line I would be very surprised if it was the same end to end. It is utterly
hopeless especially in the rush hour - it literally crawls through west london
and only once past hammersmith does it reach anything approaching a reasonable
speed. And then there'd usually be some pointless delay at Acton. I actually
terminated the contract early because I couldn't stand it any longer, almost
2 hours each way door to door on a bad day (which was most of them).

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

--
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Fuzz Against Junk - 2007 - Netti Netti

In message , Basil Jet
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On 09/11/2019 17:09, wrote:
Well until we see a crossrail timetable there's no way to tell, but having
commuted all the way to hatton cross and back each day for 9 months on that
line I would be very surprised if it was the same end to end. It is utterly
hopeless especially in the rush hour - it literally crawls through
west london
and only once past hammersmith does it reach anything approaching a
reasonable
speed. And then there'd usually be some pointless delay at Acton. I actually
terminated the contract early because I couldn't stand it any longer, almost
2 hours each way door to door on a bad day (which was most of them).

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.
--
Bryan Morris

In message , at 14:24:18 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Bryan Morris remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:24:18 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Bryan Morris remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.

What about the DLR at Bank?

In message , at 17:10:16 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Recliner remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.

What about the DLR at Bank?

Gets tangled up in whether it's a "tube" service or not.

But maybe people can comment on whether it's also "unbearably deep",
nevertheless.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:10:16 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Recliner remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.

What about the DLR at Bank?

Gets tangled up in whether it's a "tube" service or not.

Well, they're bored tube tunnels.


But maybe people can comment on whether it's also "unbearably deep",
nevertheless.

I don't notice any depth effects on any of these underground lines, nor the
Channel, nor even the Seikan Tunnel (240m below sea level). Similarly, I
don't get light-headed 240m above sea level.

On 15/11/2019 17:31, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:10:16 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Recliner remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.

What about the DLR at Bank?

Gets tangled up in whether it's a "tube" service or not.

Why would that be an issue?

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/11/2019 17:31, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:10:16 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Recliner remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.

What about the DLR at Bank?

Gets tangled up in whether it's a "tube" service or not.

Why would that be an issue?


Because Roland hadn’t thought of it and was trying to confine this thread
diversion to tube tunnels to disguise that, even though Basil had already
introduced non tube tunnels in his post by writing “ no other tunnel
affects me like that, not even the Chunnel�.

GH

On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 15:17:03 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:24:18 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Bryan Morris remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform.

Not it isn't. The highest point of the heath which is well above the tube
station is 134m. I'm guessing the station entrance is around 80-90m.

In message , at 20:34:40 on Fri, 15
Nov 2019, Marland remarked:
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/11/2019 17:31, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 17:10:16 on Fri, 15 Nov
2019, Recliner remarked:

I find the Picc unbearably deep, so by the time I've reached Barons
Court (westbound) I'm standing by the door gasping for fresh air. No
other tunnel affects me like that, not even the Chunnel.

I thought the Northern Line Edgware Branch was deepest. I know when I
used to travel via Hampstead/Golders Green my ears used to pop.

That's the deepest under the surface, but the surface is a hill! Air
pressure on the surface there will be lower as a result, by about 2.5%

I think the deepest below sea level (from memory) is the Jubilee between
Westminster and Waterloo.

Later: Hampstead Station is approx 200m above sea level at the surface,
140m above sea level at the platform. Westminster and Waterloo Jubilee
Line platforms are between 25-26m below sea level.

What about the DLR at Bank?

Gets tangled up in whether it's a "tube" service or not.

Why would that be an issue?

Because Roland hadn’t thought of it and was trying to confine this thread
diversion to tube tunnels to disguise that, even though Basil had already
introduced non tube tunnels in his post by writing “ no other tunnel
affects me like that, not even the Chunnel�.

I did think of it, and looked it up, but decided my original bid for the
Jubilee Line was more consistent with the theme.
--
Roland Perry