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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/06/2020 21:59, Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
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And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


… along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.


It's like that in the daytime as well. Every time I go food shopping
it's like Sunday in the 1960's, very depressing. I just wonder how many
of the closed shops will reopen, there were enough empty ones along most
of the main streets here before all this started, I dread to think how
many will be like that once they are allowed to reopen.æ


In the day, you have the queues along the pavements or through the car
parks to enter the open shops, pharmacies, supermarkets, bank branches,
etc. Sometimes the queues for different shops overlap, needing to be
choreographed (the really bizarre ones snake through the Ikea car parks,
Disneyland-style).

So, oddly enough, there are quite a few people on the streets, even if most
are, in your favourite phrase, socially distanced. But we need a new
etiquette for whether/when to keep silent or talk to the next person 2m
behind in the slowly-moving queue. In London, silence usually rules, but
I'd expect more chatting in friendly places like Liverpool or Newcastle.


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Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
GB wrote:


And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


… along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious
reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.



I was surprised to see one of the burger vans back in the centre of
Bristol
at 3am this week.


Night tube has apparently been losing huge amounts of money since it
began,
so I suspect that it won't return any time soon.


Ah, I didn't know that. They kept on putting out bullish statements on how
well it was doing, and now popular it's becoming, but not anything on the
finances. You probably have to dig deep into TfL's financial reports to
see
an analysis of Night Tube numbers, if they're published at all.


ISTM that once every 10 minutes (if my Google result was correct - I can't
look up current schedules) is far too frequent

even busses, which carry far smaller numbers usually only run ever 30
minutes on each route

So surely every 30 minutes is frequent enough for the tube as well

a 25 minute wait at 2am is nothing compared to the previous wait of 5 hours
on a Sat night/Sun Morning

tim





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MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 06/06/2020 21:59, Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
GB wrote:


And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


… along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious
reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.


It's like that in the daytime as well. Every time I go food shopping
it's like Sunday in the 1960's, very depressing. I just wonder how many
of the closed shops will reopen, there were enough empty ones along most
of the main streets here before all this started, I dread to think how
many will be like that once they are allowed to reopen.æ


In the day, you have the queues along the pavements or through the car
parks to enter the open shops, pharmacies, supermarkets, bank branches,
etc. Sometimes the queues for different shops overlap, needing to be
choreographed (the really bizarre ones snake through the Ikea car parks,
Disneyland-style).


I try and go at a time that I don't have to Q

9am works pretty well

Though the Ikea Q looks unavoidable

I don't need my new shelf unit that badly

(before anyone asks - unavailable for delivery)


tim


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On 06/06/2020 11:11, Roland Perry wrote:

Public transport day-tickets are usually 4am-4am.

Are they? One of the first things I look for when buying them is what
they
a I've seen until last service, 00:00-24:00, 24 h from purchase, 24 h
from first use (handy when staying somewhere overnight),


24 hours from first use is common in Europe

but I can't recall anywhere in the UK that uses that method


I had a ticket somewhere in Japan (I think it was) like that, which meant
hanging about in the hotel for another hour on the first day to make sure
that the ticket would still be valid for getting to the airport/station (I
can't remember which, or where) for our onwards travel the next day.


done that sort of thing many times

:-(



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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
GB wrote:


And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


… along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious
reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.



I was surprised to see one of the burger vans back in the centre of
Bristol
at 3am this week.


Night tube has apparently been losing huge amounts of money since it
began,
so I suspect that it won't return any time soon.


Ah, I didn't know that. They kept on putting out bullish statements on how
well it was doing, and now popular it's becoming, but not anything on the
finances. You probably have to dig deep into TfL's financial reports to
see
an analysis of Night Tube numbers, if they're published at all.


ISTM that once every 10 minutes (if my Google result was correct - I can't
look up current schedules) is far too frequent

even busses, which carry far smaller numbers usually only run ever 30
minutes on each route

So surely every 30 minutes is frequent enough for the tube as well

a 25 minute wait at 2am is nothing compared to the previous wait of 5 hours
on a Sat night/Sun Morning


They cut the night bus service back on routes that paralled the Night Tube
— I wonder if the previous service has, or will be, restored?


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"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
GB wrote:


And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


… along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious
reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.



I was surprised to see one of the burger vans back in the centre of
Bristol
at 3am this week.


Night tube has apparently been losing huge amounts of money since it
began,
so I suspect that it won't return any time soon.

Ah, I didn't know that. They kept on putting out bullish statements on
how
well it was doing, and now popular it's becoming, but not anything on
the
finances. You probably have to dig deep into TfL's financial reports to
see
an analysis of Night Tube numbers, if they're published at all.


ISTM that once every 10 minutes (if my Google result was correct - I
can't
look up current schedules) is far too frequent

even busses, which carry far smaller numbers usually only run ever 30
minutes on each route

So surely every 30 minutes is frequent enough for the tube as well

a 25 minute wait at 2am is nothing compared to the previous wait of 5
hours
on a Sat night/Sun Morning


They cut the night bus service back on routes that paralled the Night Tube


how does that work, given that night busses operate 7 days a week

and the tube 2 days a week

I didn't previously notice that night busses were more frequent on Fri and
Sat nights

Every night bus round here, both radial routes and tangential routes seems
to operate every 30 minutes 7 days a week

the only difference being that night frequency continues longer into Sunday
morning before day time frequency commences.

FTAOD, none of them parallel the tube, except in a very minor way





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On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:09:05 +0100, "tim..."
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"Recliner" wrote in message
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Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
GB wrote:


And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious
reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.



I was surprised to see one of the burger vans back in the centre of
Bristol
at 3am this week.


Night tube has apparently been losing huge amounts of money since it
began,
so I suspect that it won't return any time soon.


Ah, I didn't know that. They kept on putting out bullish statements on how
well it was doing, and now popular it's becoming, but not anything on the
finances. You probably have to dig deep into TfL's financial reports to
see
an analysis of Night Tube numbers, if they're published at all.


ISTM that once every 10 minutes (if my Google result was correct - I can't
look up current schedules) is far too frequent

even busses, which carry far smaller numbers usually only run ever 30
minutes on each route


You sure? When the Piccadilly Line Night Tube was being floated there
was a TL consultation concerning changes to nearby bus routes. They
proposed reducing the southern part of the N29 from its then current
headway of every 3-5 minutes.
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On 07/06/2020 09:09, tim... wrote:

Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


ISTM that once every 10 minutes (if my Google result was correct - I
can't look up current schedules) is far too frequent

even busses, which carry far smaller numbers usually only run ever 30
minutes on each route

So surely every 30 minutes is frequent enough for the tube as well

a 25 minute wait at 2am is nothing compared to the previous wait of 5
hours on a Sat night/Sun Morning


If you're alone, granted, but if you're a young man who's just pulled,
you need to seal the deal before she changes her mind, and making small
talk for 25 minutes will seem like eternity.

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On 07/06/2020 10:21, tim... wrote:
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They cut the night bus service back on routes that paralled the Night
Tube


how does that work, given that night busses operate 7 days a week

and the tube 2 days a week

I didn't previously notice that night busses were more frequent on Fri
and Sat nights


The N29 used to have extra buses that only ran to Wood Green on the
weekends.

FTAOD, none of them parallel the tube, except in a very minor way


That might be true around your way, but the N1, N5 and N91 used to
parallel the tube in a very major way. I haven't checked recently.

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"Trolleybus" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:09:05 +0100, "tim..."
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"Recliner" wrote in message
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Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Recliner wrote:
Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
GB wrote:


And, I thought the trains were going to run all night?


Night Tube is suspended indefinitely AIUI.


. along with London's night economy which it serves. For obvious
reasons,
I've not been in a town centre at night lately, but it must be weirdly
empty, with all pubs, restaurants, theatres, clubs, etc closed.



I was surprised to see one of the burger vans back in the centre of
Bristol
at 3am this week.


Night tube has apparently been losing huge amounts of money since it
began,
so I suspect that it won't return any time soon.

Ah, I didn't know that. They kept on putting out bullish statements on
how
well it was doing, and now popular it's becoming, but not anything on
the
finances. You probably have to dig deep into TfL's financial reports to
see
an analysis of Night Tube numbers, if they're published at all.


ISTM that once every 10 minutes (if my Google result was correct - I can't
look up current schedules) is far too frequent

even busses, which carry far smaller numbers usually only run ever 30
minutes on each route


You sure?


there's no way to check at the moment

But the last time that I checked how I might get back from an airport after
the last train/tube, all the options were 30 minute frequency


When the Piccadilly Line Night Tube was being floated there
was a TL consultation concerning changes to nearby bus routes. They
proposed reducing the southern part of the N29 from its then current
headway of every 3-5 minutes.


seems excessive even as day time route





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