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Andrew P Smith wrote the following in:
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May writes

The whole of the Victoria line is in deep tube tunnels, apart from
at the depot. I don't think it's possible for track to be less
accessible to the public and there are certainly areas on the DLR
where the track is more accessible to the public than that. So you
are wrong.


No I'm not.

What is there to stop someone wandering off the platform and down
a tunnel.....


Nothing. But there is also nothing to stop someone wandering off the
platform and down a viaduct. And even if that is the only method of
getting on to the track you consider, the DLR track is *still* more
accessible than the Victoria line track because the DLR has more
stations and they are closer together.

So yes, you are wrong.

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AyrAlex (AyrAlex) wrote in message ...
Lars Elmvang wrote:

Don't the new underground stations have glass doors by the platforms (I know
underground trains aren't automated)? I'm not sure if they do, because my
local underground has 20 year old dirty brown-tiled stations, 110 year old
tunnels (the smell is reminiscent of a cave) and has tiny trains.


You'd be a resident of Glasgow then?

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Boltar wrote:
You'd be a resident of Glasgow then?

Yes. The place where the floor of the subway in the station has trenches in
it so that people who are pushed down there or jump off can lie under the
train as it goes past. I'd not like to try it, though. For some reason the
Glasgow Subway has minging, eggy-smelling orange water running down the
train tracks and stagnating in big puddles in the stations. You really have
to see it to believe it.

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Boltar wrote:
You'd be a resident of Glasgow then?

Yes. The place where the floor of the subway in the station has
trenches in it so that people who are pushed down there or jump
off can lie under the train as it goes past.


London has that, except for on the Jubilee line extension where they
don't need it because the platform edge doors prevent people from
getting to the track. Although I believe some stations even have it on
that.

I'd not like to try
it, though. For some reason the Glasgow Subway has minging,
eggy-smelling orange water running down the train tracks and
stagnating in big puddles in the stations. You really have to see
it to believe it.


I've seen that sort of thing on the tube, I'm not sure where but I
think Tottenham Court Road is a likely candidate.

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"AyrAlex" (AyrAlex) wrote in message
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Boltar wrote:
You'd be a resident of Glasgow then?

Yes. The place where the floor of the subway in the station has trenches

in
it so that people who are pushed down there or jump off can lie under the
train as it goes past. I'd not like to try it, though. For some reason the
Glasgow Subway has minging, eggy-smelling orange water running down the
train tracks and stagnating in big puddles in the stations. You really

have
to see it to believe it.


Which are the stations where you can hear running water, Kelvinbridge and
Cessnock?

The Glasgow Underground (sorry, I refuse to embrace the new 'Subway'
indentity, too 'merkin sounding) used to have a tar smell but now it has an
eggy, sulphurous whiff. I used to live above the tunnels between
Kelvinbridge and Hillhead, the building used to tremble when trains passed
by underneath (I was on the ground floor, Oakfield Avenue, G12). Such a pity
the plans to build another circle to make a figure-of-eight formation and
plans to extend over the old Botanic Gardens underground tunnels never came
to anything. Any mice in stations like you sometimes see in London tube
stations?





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Andy wrote:
Which are the stations where you can hear running water, Kelvinbridge and
Cessnock?

Very funny, but no.

The Glasgow Underground (sorry, I refuse to embrace the new 'Subway'
indentity, too 'merkin sounding)...

It was originally called the Glasgow District Subway 100 years ago, it's
only been called the Underground for the last few decades

...used to have a tar smell but now it has an eggy, sulphurous whiff. I
used to live above the tunnels between Kelvinbridge and Hillhead, the
building used to tremble when trains passed by underneath (I was on the
ground floor, Oakfield Avenue, G12).

The trains smell a bit eggy, but most of the stations smell of damp cave
(the damp tunnels are over 100 years old now)

pity the plans to build another circle to make a figure-of-eight formation
and plans to extend over the old Botanic Gardens underground tunnels never
came to anything.

The Subway does need updating a bit, don't forget it's over 100 years old
now. Some of the stations were the site of old factories or old industrial
areas which have since closed and been replaced by warehouses, so a lot of
the stations are now irrelevant and very quiet. Although, as mentioned
elsewhere, there's not any real need for a big Underground network like
London has, simply because we've got a great suburban rail network up here.

Any mice in stations like you sometimes see in London tube stations?

No. I think the eggy Irn Bru orange water on the platforms kills them.

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"AyrAlex" (AyrAlex) wrote in message
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Andy wrote:
Which are the stations where you can hear running water, Kelvinbridge

and
Cessnock?

Very funny, but no.


I was being serious, there are a couple of stations where you can hear
running water, I forget which ones. It sounded like an underground river was
running nearby. The same as Sloane Square having an underground river
running through it in a conduit/trough above the platform.

The Glasgow Underground (sorry, I refuse to embrace the new 'Subway'
indentity, too 'merkin sounding)...

It was originally called the Glasgow District Subway 100 years ago, it's
only been called the Underground for the last few decades


I know it was originally called the 'Subway' but it just sounds too alien
and Americanised for Britain.


pity the plans to build another circle to make a figure-of-eight

formation
and plans to extend over the old Botanic Gardens underground tunnels

never
came to anything.

The Subway does need updating a bit, don't forget it's over 100 years old
now. Some of the stations were the site of old factories or old industrial
areas which have since closed and been replaced by warehouses, so a lot of
the stations are now irrelevant and very quiet. Although, as mentioned
elsewhere, there's not any real need for a big Underground network like
London has, simply because we've got a great suburban rail network up

here.

Yes, the Strathclyde suburban network is very good but it would be even
better if converted to a full Metro system Tyne and Wear or DLR style.

This is a good website about Glasgow's many disused railway tunnels. The
former Second City of the Empire is the most tunnelled under outside London,
well worth exploring (and brilliant for shopping!!):
http://www.urbanadventure.org/2003/transit/t_transt.htm





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