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Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


It wouldn't be allowed by H&S. Water would have to be in sealed containers.


How would you drink it then ? ;-)

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Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


It wouldn't be allowed by H&S. Water would have to be in sealed containers.


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Is that motivated purely by H&S considerations or (being cynical) could it
be that bottled water can be charged for (and therefore someone can make a
profit out of those sales) whereas a water fountain cannot easily be made
profitable?


As a side thought, I think I am right in saying that in restaurants in
France, a bottle of water has to be paid for, but if you ask for a jugful
they are prohibited by law from charging.




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"Martin Underwood" wrote
Is that motivated purely by H&S considerations or (being cynical)
could it be that bottled water can be charged for (and therefore
someone can make a profit out of those sales) whereas a water
fountain cannot easily be made profitable?


As a side thought, I think I am right in saying that in
restaurants in France, a bottle of water has to be paid for, but
if you ask for a jugful they are prohibited by law from charging.


I'm pretty sure that in the UK you can ask for tap water and they have
to give you it free.

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Stuart wrote:
Gary Jenkins wrote:

During the hot spell last week the announcer at Westminster Tube was
advising passengers to carry bottled water with them.

As far as I know the tube has been operating for over 100 yeras
without any seriious incidents of dehydrated passengers. Have the
operators now lost confidenc in their ability to get people to their
destination within a reasonable time?



Might be a good idea if they put vending machins selling bottled water
on the tube rather than the endless chocolate and sugary fizzy drink.


They already do - almost all of the machines I have seen (notably the
ones at KxSTP/Gloucester Road WB) all sell Coke, Diet Coke and bottled
water. Whether or not there is anything in the machine is another matter.

Brad


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"Martin Underwood" wrote
Is that motivated purely by H&S considerations or (being cynical)
could it be that bottled water can be charged for (and therefore
someone can make a profit out of those sales) whereas a water
fountain cannot easily be made profitable?


As a side thought, I think I am right in saying that in
restaurants in France, a bottle of water has to be paid for, but
if you ask for a jugful they are prohibited by law from charging.


I'm pretty sure that in the UK you can ask for tap water and they have
to give you it free.


Not unless it has changed recently. A publican or restaurateur is entitled
to charge for the labour ,use of the glass etc. Since they are also paying
for the water on a commercial basis they are surely entitled to pass that
charge on?


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Henry wrote:
"Martin Underwood" wrote
Is that motivated purely by H&S considerations or (being cynical)
could it be that bottled water can be charged for (and therefore
someone can make a profit out of those sales) whereas a water
fountain cannot easily be made profitable?


As a side thought, I think I am right in saying that in restaurants
in France, a bottle of water has to be paid for, but if you ask for
a jugful they are prohibited by law from charging.


I believe so, and I find that a request for "une carafe d'eau" is
accepted more willingly in France than asking for tap water in an
English restaurant. I have never been charged for tap water in either
country, though I once found a restaurant (Old Siam in Reading) that
refused to serve it.

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"Stuart" wrote in message
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Gary Jenkins wrote:

During the hot spell last week the announcer at Westminster Tube was
advising passengers to carry bottled water with them.

As far as I know the tube has been operating for over 100 yeras
without any seriious incidents of dehydrated passengers. Have the
operators now lost confidenc in their ability to get people to their
destination within a reasonable time?


Might be a good idea if they put vending machins selling bottled water
on the tube rather than the endless chocolate and sugary fizzy drink.

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Not unless it has changed recently. A publican or restaurateur is entitled
to charge for the labour ,use of the glass etc. Since they are also paying
for the water on a commercial basis they are surely entitled to pass that
charge on?


There was recently a case in Devon (IIRC) where a customer was charged for
tap water. The restaurateur made exactly the above case. However, South West
Water pointed out that the cost of the water, delivering it to the table and
the cost of water used in washing the glass would be something like
0.00001p.

The customer did the most sensible thing in such circumstances and referred
the details to the local press, who had a field day with the case and
utterly humiliated the restaurateur. Even the national press picked up on
it. The restaurateur might have salvaged some pride with a bit of humility
but made himself look an even bigger fool by adamantly standing by his
position.

Whilst there is nothing in law to stop anyone charging for tap water in
their own establishment, the majority of places regard it as a negligible
cost and that the goodwill is worth significantly more.




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