Michael Hoffman wrote the following
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, John Rowland wrote:

"Sam Holloway" wrote in message
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* No apostrophes in Earls Court, Regents Park,
Kings Cross, etc! Is this one of the plans for 2016? :-)

Quite possibly! Apostrophe abuse is so common now that
getting rid of them altogether could be the way forward. :-)

Aposatrophy?

More like apostrophe apostasy.

I'd call it apostratrocity.

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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Stuart wrote:

What's with the Thameslink line that goes from St Pancras through
Finsbury Park and then up north somewhere?

It will run on existing track to Peterborough, Cambridge and King's Lynn.

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Annabel Smyth wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 at 08:40:56, Dan Gravell
wrote:


And yes, a reliable link to Brixton would be much nicer. I know about
the corridor through Streatham particularly around the library that
makes it difficult, but either just sod the cars or bulldoze Lidl imo.
Either way it's win:win


Why can't they go down Tooting Bec Common, if they can't go down the
High Road? (No, I don't want them to bulldoze Lidl; I like Lidl!)

If you consider the route to the common that's quite a gradient at
Ambleside Avenue. I'm not sure if trams could cope with that? (not an
expert myself though).

I guess it could cut into the common slightly where the horse riding
track is at the moment, then cut into the Streatham Hill area (not sure
about how the well heeled residents would feel about that though... what
do I care, BULLDOZE!). Come out at the high road at Streatham Hill and
onto Brixton from there.

"Marc Brett" wrote...

There was some talk about eliminating Kew Gardens and Richmond from
the District Line, to be replaced by Crossrail. The PDF map shows
them both in place. Does this mean that the District Line will be
preserved intact, or is this still under review?


And, it still shows a Network Rail connection at Old Street while the WAGN
line from Finsbury Park runs to the Thameslink instead of Moorgate.
Confused? I am.

"John Rowland" wrote...


The omissions are more interesting.

Park Royal interchange

I thought plans were well advanced for that?

West Hampstead Met Interchange

A West Hampstead Chiltern interchange might be more interesting

Tufnell Park Goblin interchange (no surprise)

And the map doesn't even show the existing conveninent walk between Archway
and Upper Holloway. (No worse than walking from Clapham North to Clampham
High St.) Guess TfL isn't interested in the Goblin...

Langdon Park DLR station - whatever happened to that?
New H&C station at White City


Crazy ideas I'd like to have seen, but there always was No Chance:

Morden Road interchange for Tramlink and Northern line.
Extension of Northern line to Morden South.
Extension of DLR from Lewisham to Hayes and Beckenham Jn.
Brixton interchange on South (or East?) London Line.
Colindeep Lane interchange between Thameslink and Northern Line.
South Hampstead interchange for Chiltern Line.
Re-open Primrose Hill line to take ELLE to Kilburn.

Stuart wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 08 Jul 2004 00:19:41 +0100
:

Paul Terry wrote:
It is ... although for me the most interesting part is that even by 2016
the mayor does not expect his maps to acknowledge the existence of most
of the surface rail network that serves me and many millions of others
living close to the centre of which he is mayor.

Integrated transport? Come on Ken ...

It would be a bit crowded!

Remember, this is a TfL map and TfL don't, at the moment at least, have
authority over those lines. The National Rail lines that are included
are those that appear on the tube map at the moment (Silverlink,
Thameslink etc)

Understood, though I would have expected the GN suburban to have more
than just a vague arrow northwards from Finsbury Park, given the
changes under Thameslink 2000??


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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Solar Penguin wrote:

And, it still shows a Network Rail connection at Old Street while the
WAGN line from Finsbury Park runs to the Thameslink instead of Moorgate.
Confused? I am.

AIUI, the TL2K plan doesn't involve closing the GN Electrics route from
Finsbury Park to Moorgate, just taking trains which currently terminate at
King's Cross onto Thameslink. Thus, there will still be service from FP to
MG, via Old Street.

tom

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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:39:42 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Sam Holloway wrote:
Any mooted plans to extend Victoria or Bakerloo lines south must be
pretty dormant.

I've heard mention of such plans, but no details (at least not for the
Victoria). What exactly has been proposed (seriously or not)?

I have a press cutting (unfortunately can't find it at the moment)
dating from the annoucement of the southerly East London Line
extensions. There was very undetailed map of London with some vague
arrows coming off the bottom of the Bakerloo and Victoria lines,
implying extensions.

Bakerloo southern extensions have been seriously mooted in the past -
indeed, there are some Tube diagrams with the Bakerloo shown as "under
construction" another stop (to Camberwell, I think). The only serious
Victoria extension I know of is the loop described in the other
postings on this thread.

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"Dave Hillam" ] wrote in message
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The National Rail lines that are included are those
that appear on the tube map at the moment (Silverlink,
Thameslink etc)

Understood, though I would have expected the GN suburban
to have more than just a vague arrow northwards from
Finsbury Park, given the changes under Thameslink 2000??

The GN inner suburban isn't changing under TL2k. The outer suburban runs
non-stop from Kings Cross to the sticks.

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"Sam Holloway" wrote in message
...

Bakerloo southern extensions have been seriously
mooted in the past - indeed, there are some Tube
diagrams with the Bakerloo shown as "under
construction" another stop (to Camberwell, I think).

Camberwell was the southern terminus promised on a sign at one of the
Bakerloo stations (Maida Vale, I think). ISTR the sign in question was
stolen a few years ago.

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