Can anyone suggst the best times, routes, stations etc to catch the
remaining slam-door stock still used by SWT, Southern and SET on the
former BR (Souhern Region) lines?

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Can anyone suggst the best times, routes, stations etc to catch the
remaining slam-door stock still used by SWT, Southern and SET on the
former BR (Souhern Region) lines?

SWT diagrams are becoming thinner by the week. The Windsor lines became
Desiro-worked at the beginning of December but several of the
Portsmouth/Haslemere diagrams remain CIG/VEP. I haven't got an up-to-date
list of current diagrams but, at the beginning of the year, the following
diagrams *out* of Waterloo were slam-door: 2P07 05:20 Portsmouth &
Southsea; 2F03 05:50 Woking; 2W13 06:12 Wareham; 2T13 06:42 Portsmouth
Harbour; 1P17 08:00 Portsmouth Harbour; 1T17 08:09 Eastleigh & PH; 1P19
08:31 PH; 1B19 08:39 Soton Central; 1P21 09:00 PH; 1T21 09:10 PH; 1P23
09:30 PH; 2L23 09:42 Basingstoke; 2P25 10:15 Haslemere; 1P27 10:30 PH;
1T29 11:09 PH; 1P31 11:30 PH; 1T33 12:09 PH; 2P33 12:15 Haslemere; 1P35
12:30 PH; 1B35 12:39 Soton Central; 2P35 12:45 PH; 1P37 13:00 PH; 1T37
13:09 PH; 2P37 13:15 Haslemere; 1P39 13:30 PH; 1B39 13:39 Soton Central;
1B43 14:39 Soton Central; 2P43 14:45 PH; 1P45 15:00 PH; 2P47 15:45 PH;
1P49 16:00 PH; 1P51 16:30 PH; 2F91 17:02 Guildford; 2N93 17:05 Aldershot
via Ascot; 1T53 17:09 PH; 2P53 17:15 Fratton; 2L91 17:23 Basingstoke;
1P55 17:30 PH; 1T55 17:39 PH; 1P57 18:00 PH; 1B57 18:05 Poole; 1T57
18:09 PH; 2L95 18:23 Basingstoke; 1P61 19:00 PH; 2F97 19:02 Woking; 1T61
19:10 PH; 2P61 19:15 Haslemere; 1P67 20:30 PH; 2P67 20:45 P&S; 1P73
22:00 PH; 1P75 22:30 PH; 2L77 23:12 Basingstoke; 2P77 23:15 PH; 2S77
23:22 Weybridge; 2L79 23:48 Basingstoke.

Several of the above diagrams have probably been lost during Jan/Feb.

South Central diagrams are similarly thinning out as the East Grinstead
diagrams go over to Electrostars, the best time to view SC slam-door stock
is from about 16:00 at London Bridge.

South Eastern Trains diagrams are concentrated on the peak hours now. Again,
from about 16:00 London Bridge comes alive with slammers.

HTH

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Jack Taylor wrote:

SWT diagrams are becoming thinner by the week. The Windsor lines became
Desiro-worked at the beginning of December but several of the
Portsmouth/Haslemere diagrams remain CIG/VEP. I haven't got an
up-to-date list of current diagrams but, at the beginning of the year,
the following diagrams *out* of Waterloo were slam-door:

So, what exactly is a diagram?

tom

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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Jack Taylor wrote:

SWT diagrams are becoming thinner by the week. The Windsor lines
became Desiro-worked at the beginning of December but several of
the Portsmouth/Haslemere diagrams remain CIG/VEP. I haven't got an
up-to-date list of current diagrams but, at the beginning of the
year, the following diagrams *out* of Waterloo were slam-door:

So, what exactly is a diagram?

The original railway usage is "a graphical schedule for operating
railway locomotives and rolling stock in order to provide a desired
service" [New Oxford Dictionary of English, 2001]


There's a simple example of a service that uses 4 trains at
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cf-chanterai...is/exploit.htm
(scroll down to "diagram of timetable").

The term is often used nowadays (as in Jack Taylor's post) to refer to
the set of journeys allocated to a single train formation over the
course of, typically, one day.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:08:42 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

So, what exactly is a diagram?

The itinerary of a train in one cycle of duty.

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Richard J. wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

So, what exactly is a diagram?

The term is often used nowadays (as in Jack Taylor's post) to refer to
the set of journeys allocated to a single train formation over the
course of, typically, one day.

Ah, i see. Thanks - and thanks to Mr Tolley as well.

tom

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Brace yourself for an engulfing, cowardly autotroph! I want your photosynthetic apparatii!

wrote in message
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Can anyone suggst the best times, routes, stations etc to catch the
remaining slam-door stock still used by SWT, Southern and SET on the
former BR (Souhern Region) lines?

On Southern nearly all services are now 377s. I haven't seen slammers going
towards Lewes/Eastbourne, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The
exceptions I know of a

0631/ Hove/
0640 Brighton to London Bridge
0711 Hove to Victoria
0741 Hove to Victoria

1724 Victoria to Littlehampton/Southampton

There are probably still one or two Horsham via Redhill services that are
slammers as well.

D A Stocks

Can anyone suggst the best times, routes, stations etc to catch the
remaining slam-door stock still used by SWT, Southern and SET on the
former BR (Souhern Region) lines?

Can't be specific, but you still see a good few passing through East Croydon
in the morning peaks.

In article . com,
wrote:
Can anyone suggst the best times, routes, stations etc to catch the
remaining slam-door stock still used by SWT, Southern and SET on the
former BR (Souhern Region) lines?

I don't know if the 17.49 weekdays Victoria - Ramsgate still has Ceps
(they certainly worked it well into January), but if it does that's the
one to go for !

Nick
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http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Richard J. wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

So, what exactly is a diagram?

The term is often used nowadays (as in Jack Taylor's post) to refer to
the set of journeys allocated to a single train formation over the
course of, typically, one day.

Ah, i see. Thanks - and thanks to Mr Tolley as well.

And thanks from me to those who posted replies for Tom, as I hadn't checked
the group over the weekend and seen his request.