http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons and
some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!

Dominic

wrote:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons
and some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!

That's crazy! It's not pay as you go, it's pay *before* you go.
Pre-Pay was a good name which accurately described the concept of paying
in advance for a number of journeys, as distinct from paying for each
journey in cash, which *is* pay-as-you-go. I suppose they're trying to
hide the fact that they will get lots of money up front, but in changing
the name they have just made the whole Oyster concept more difficult to
understand. I feel an e-mail to TfL coming on.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
o.uk...
wrote:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons
and some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!

That's crazy! It's not pay as you go, it's pay *before* you go.

Isn't that how pay-as-you-go Mobile Phone's work then?

Mike

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Mike Hudgell wrote:

"Richard J." wrote in message
o.uk...
wrote:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons and
some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!

That's crazy! It's not pay as you go, it's pay *before* you go.

Isn't that how pay-as-you-go Mobile Phone's work then?

Exactly. 'Pay as you go' has ceased to be a descriptive phrase, and is
now, thanks to mobile phones, an atomic symbol - a single word with spaces
in, essentially - which means 'you put credit on it ahead of time and then
spend that credit as you go'. I wouldn't be surprised if key-operated
electricity meters started being called pay-as-you-go as well.

tom

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http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons and
some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!

Dominic


Can somebody explain how capping works if you have a 'pay as you go'
oystercard ? If you only used the buses but then suddenly had to jump on a
tube, will you be charged again until you reach the next capping level, and
then so on if you end up going through more than one zone ?

At what point would it be better to buy a 1 day travelcard instead of
relying on the capping ?

Thanks.



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"Richard J." wrote in message
o.uk...
wrote:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons
and some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!

That's crazy! It's not pay as you go, it's pay *before* you go.
Pre-Pay was a good name which accurately described the concept of paying
in advance for a number of journeys, as distinct from paying for each
journey in cash, which *is* pay-as-you-go. I suppose they're trying to
hide the fact that they will get lots of money up front, but in changing
the name they have just made the whole Oyster concept more difficult to
understand. I feel an e-mail to TfL coming on.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Oh come on Richard. 'Pay As You Go' is common parlance now thanks to the
popular Mobile Phone payment mechanism.

Oyster Pre-Pay is exactly the same concept as mobile phone PAYG. It makes
absolute sense for TfL to describe it using a term that the general public
(excepting yourself perhaps) are totally comfortable with.

Colin

"EK" typed


Can somebody explain how capping works if you have a 'pay as you go'
oystercard ? If you only used the buses but then suddenly had to jump on a
tube, will you be charged again until you reach the next capping level, and
then so on if you end up going through more than one zone ?

If you jump on a tube, you should get capped at the lowest appropriate
One Day Travelcard rate. (Zone 2-6, 1-6, 1-4 or whatever) Before that,
you'd get capped at the level for a One Day Bus Pass.

At what point would it be better to buy a 1 day travelcard instead of
relying on the capping ?

As soon as there is any chance you might need to use National Rail, on
which Oyster is, by and large, not valid.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Can somebody explain how capping works if you have a 'pay as you go'
oystercard ? If you only used the buses but then suddenly had to jump on a tube, will you be
charged again until you reach the next capping level, and then so on if you end up going through
more than one zone ?

Yes exactly like that. If you change mode or travel through more zones or
travel at different times the caps will change and your previous journeys count
towards the new cap.

At what point would it be better to buy a 1 day travelcard instead of relying on the capping ?

At the point you know you want to use National Rail as capping only works
on a select few routes. Otherwise the cap will be 50p less than the paper
travelcard from 2006.

There will be no benefit at all in buying a paper bus pass as it will be priced
50p more than a one day bus pass and you will loose the flexibility of being
able to jump on the tube and have it count towards your tube cap.

On 26 Oct 2005 09:06:49 -0700, wrote:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/downloads/...06-leaflet.pdf

The Family Travelcard, Tube Carnet, Single zone Travelcard seasons and
some New Deal tickets are being withdrawn. But a less obvious
disappearance is Oyster Prepay. It's now referred to as 'pay as you
go'!


And a name change equates to a disappearance just how?
There are issues with Oyster. But that ain't one of them. Save your
ammunition

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:51:25 +0100, "EK"
wrote:

Can somebody explain how capping works if you have a 'pay as you go'
oystercard ? If you only used the buses but then suddenly had to jump on a
tube, will you be charged again until you reach the next capping level, and
then so on if you end up going through more than one zone ?

At what point would it be better to buy a 1 day travelcard instead of
relying on the capping ?

If you stick to busses, you are capped at the price of a one-day bus
pass. If you use tube as well, you are capped at the price of a
one-day travelcard. Or slightly less - isn't there a small discount?

You need to buy a paper TC if you need to use National Rail within th
travelcard zone. NR are dragging their heels at implementing oyster
pre-pay.